(05-13-2016, 05:53 AM)Kaghuros Wrote: It's not just my own criticism, I legitimately think that the admins would never allow something so open-ended.
I actually agree that you'd do your best to stick to your diplomacy, but the thing is that we have faction balance because the community doesn't self-regulate to the extent anyone would like. Faction perks and drawbacks exist to give benefits while keeping people out of trouble. That's the burden of officialdom for most "generic" factions: accepting some of the restrictions that normal faction IDs have in exchange for uniqueness. The more allowances you have in your official ID the more caveats you'll need to make sure a balance is maintained.
The most important faction ID to take into account, in my opinion, is the Order's. They're not allowed to bring capitals outside of the Omicrons, which is their limitation for having a Sirius-wide ZoI and many of the same ID allowances (such as confiscation of Nomad items). Perhaps their ID (and its restrictions) should be your template if you're not going to focus on bounty-hunting.
As I had mentioned, the line is questionable, and I understand exactly where you're coming from here. There are plenty of times where some things may need to be sacrificed, even with existing justifications (Which were explained). The ID is the 'Proposed' line, not the final. It's always subject to change, be it our own or admin choice. We don't have a fixed ZoI, due to the nomadic nature of the faction. We never stay in one place too long, as we don't have a home outside of our vessels (soon). Of course, this opens up the perspective of potential ID abuse, as you've mentioned.
We're discussing alterations to the ID behind the scenes, so expect changes eventually.
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(05-13-2016, 05:45 AM)Darku Wrote: Whats the reason to make Corsair as your enemy ? cause TBH destroyed your amigo's/The.Cincinnati (POB) ? sharing enemies ?
Yes. Along with the fact that the Corsairs deal with the Artifact trade, and the Leader's influence of their hatred to the Corsairs, and with them extorting the relief convoys, further fueling the hatred, and with the stigma of them being painted as 'primitive cannibal apes.'
(05-13-2016, 05:45 AM)Darku Wrote: I don't really care who hunting you down but even you docking their station ?
What. No one has ever docked on a Corsair base?
Quote: I still remember the Omega 5 battle hessian wasn't looking for your people but you come to our battlezone and tricks on hessians for hire you. I had encountered with your guys multiple times ; wasn't the first time in Delta
I wasn't really there for the initialization for it but I did come in to assist who was already there. If I remember correctly, our guys were offered money to assist.
(05-13-2016, 05:49 AM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: "no big deal, they overreacted."
to be fair, there's a clear definition between invading and intruding - where one is an action of outright hostile attack and the other is just entering the space.
Though chasing two ships all the way to Delta and taunting in system, and then complaining about getting shot down by the locals was really silly on this perspective. Bringing a defence fleet to a hostile warzone, alright. (tbh, if anything, the oorp attitude afterwards in private was the overreaction)
Then again, I actually did go there to talk but bringing that ship was a mistake and I do regret it lmao. Sure, the system chat was provoking, but it was mostly done because of the fact that the Order tried to actually engage us as we jumped in, cloaked, them shooting towards the jumphole (even though there was no RP info of us approaching either).
but y'know, everything could have been a lot worse, and let's be thankful it didn't turn into a turdslinging contest.
Quote:This is wrong. The Core have shot us with Jess present.
As I said, I had encounter with your many times. I seen what your guys doing in Omicron system.
There is a lot of in-character history to disliking the Corsairs. You named one plot-point. Auxesia is opposed to the artifact trade and general existence of what they see as a nation consisting of degenerates.
seeing a individual group who wanted to wipe out the 'Artifacts' trade ! Still I don't see whats the story behind this ? Corsair didn't even hunt any of your people , oh wait am not crying. well whatever....
Quote:If you're referring to the 'Nati docking in Omega-47 that day, Fuski was unaware of our stance and was heavily chastised for making a big mistake.
that wasn't the first time tbh, you even docked in Order base I was there and A/) hunt Order vessel
Quote:Hessians/SCRA might shoot us, but we all share a common enemy: The Corsairs. Prioritize.
Well, you tricks well those people who's against Corsair.
(05-13-2016, 05:44 AM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: The Eidolon Wraith and Cinncinati invading Mu while cloaked isn't a small incursion.
We woke you up, though. It was nice to see Order moving around outside of Mu, and prompted a rather large-scale event. (:
And you ruined any chance of redemption.
My point remains, Ven, is that it wasn't a "small incursion." A "small" incursion when you flew your Prosecs into Mu. Bringing your only two caps? Seriously Ven, this isn't about waking up.
At the very least fess up when you enter an enemy home system with your biggest, baddest warships then talk ***** over system. I have no problem with you Ven, but at the very least. Admit when you did something, instead of trying to say it was "no big deal, they overreacted."
You parked two Ossies outside the jumphole after watching the playerlist for us to approach. When we arrived, rather than speaking, your Osiris' started firing blindly trying to hit something, knowing we were cloaked. Care to explain how you magically knew we were coming IRP? (:
Akabat is equipped with 2 Spyglass Scanners (Sky Eye which is at the Razgriz Straits Science Complex and Eagle Eye at Defense Station Hoff) as well as the Tombstone, which has the most advanced sensors known to man. If you had arrived uncloaked, we wouldn't be trying to shoot and lock you down. For all we know you're going to try and attack Akabat, with how you attacked Starborn for, as you said INRP..."annoying everyone." If "announcing intent to scan" is enough to assault an Osiris alongside the Core, for all we know we could say Hi and you'd try and murder our children. You've shown a disregard for Order lives that shows nothing different from the core.
If you had approached from Zeta we'd have waited there, and we'd have been much more calm. Instead you use a backdoor...through a Nomad system...we use as the Kusari Highway to the Blood Dragons.
Ven, Nyx, you guys are fantastic roleplayers, and have insane ideas and actually can write well. But that doesn't mean you're faultless. yes, we opened fire. But why enter the system in cloak, instead of entering uncloaked...in fighters...
Like the second time you did, when it was little too late.
(05-13-2016, 05:49 AM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: "no big deal, they overreacted."
Auzari Wrote:to be fair, there's a clear definition between invading and intruding - where one is an action of outright hostile attack and the other is just entering the space.
Though chasing two ships all the way to Delta and taunting in system, and then complaining about getting shot down by the locals was really silly on this perspective. Bringing a defence fleet to a hostile warzone, alright. (tbh, if anything, the oorp attitude afterwards in private was the overreaction)
Then again, I actually did go there to talk but bringing that ship was a mistake and I do regret it lmao. Sure, the system chat was provoking, but it was mostly done because of the fact that the Order tried to actually engage us as we jumped in, cloaked, them shooting towards the jumphole (even though there was no RP info of us approaching either).
but y'know, everything could have been a lot worse, and let's be thankful it didn't turn into a turdslinging contest.
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1.) You already assaulted Order assets.
2.) We ended up there after slaughtering the PRIME in Zeta, mostly to chase you from all highways. We hung out at the Freeport mostly, until the Core logged. Yes we taunted, because you did.
4.) For our engagement and RP info,see above.
Plus, every Resheph is technically a flying Spyglass Scanner, so seeing those who enter Omicron 92,where we would have all scanners pointed at due to security reasons...? How is that even an argument?
Quote:This is wrong. The Core have shot us with Jess present.
As I said, I had encounter with your many times. I seen what your guys doing in Omicron system.
Have you? Have you really? Or are you just saying things at this point?
(05-13-2016, 06:02 AM)Darku Wrote: seeing a individual group who wanted to wipe out the 'Artifacts' trade ! Still I don't see whats the story behind this ? Corsair didn't even hunt any of your people , oh wait am not crying. well whatever....
We're opposed to the movement of any alien materials, be it remains, equipment, or in the Corsairs' case, Artifacts. Also, lol at Corsairs not hunting us, considering every encounter since November has been them shooting anything that moves. (:
(05-13-2016, 06:02 AM)Darku Wrote:
Quote:If you're referring to the 'Nati docking in Omega-47 that day, Fuski was unaware of our stance and was heavily chastised for making a big mistake.
that wasn't the first time tbh, you even docked in Order base I was there and A/) hunt Order vessel
That would've been Nick, who isn't the brightest bulb in the box, and had just returned from hiatus and was blissfully unaware of our standing towards the Order. Again, he received a long talking to and the matter was sorted.
(05-13-2016, 06:02 AM)Darku Wrote:
Quote:Hessians/SCRA might shoot us, but we all share a common enemy: The Corsairs. Prioritize.
Well, you tricks well those people who's against Corsair.
They paid us, we shot you. All three didn't like the Corsairs. That's all there is to it.
(05-13-2016, 05:44 AM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: The Eidolon Wraith and Cinncinati invading Mu while cloaked isn't a small incursion.
We woke you up, though. It was nice to see Order moving around outside of Mu, and prompted a rather large-scale event. (:
And you ruined any chance of redemption.
My point remains, Ven, is that it wasn't a "small incursion." A "small" incursion when you flew your Prosecs into Mu. Bringing your only two caps? Seriously Ven, this isn't about waking up.
At the very least fess up when you enter an enemy home system with your biggest, baddest warships then talk ***** over system. I have no problem with you Ven, but at the very least. Admit when you did something, instead of trying to say it was "no big deal, they overreacted."
You parked two Ossies outside the jumphole after watching the playerlist for us to approach. When we arrived, rather than speaking, your Osiris' started firing blindly trying to hit something, knowing we were cloaked. Care to explain how you magically knew we were coming IRP? (:
Akabat is equipped with 2 Spyglass Scanners (Sky Eye which is at the Razgriz Straits Science Complex and Eagle Eye at Defense Station Hoff) as well as the Tombstone, which has the most advanced sensors known to man. If you had arrived uncloaked, we wouldn't be trying to shoot and lock you down. For all we know you're going to try and attack Akabat, with how you attacked Starborn for, as you said INRP..."annoying everyone." If "announcing intent to scan" is enough to assault an Osiris alongside the Core, for all we know we could say Hi and you'd try and murder our children. You've shown a disregard for Order lives that shows nothing different from the core.
If you had approached from Zeta we'd have waited there, and we'd have been much more calm. Instead you use a backdoor...through a Nomad system...we use as the Kusari Highway to the Blood Dragons.
Ven, Nyx, you guys are fantastic roleplayers, and have insane ideas and actually can write well. But that doesn't mean you're faultless. yes, we opened fire. But why enter the system in cloak, instead of entering uncloaked...in fighters...
Like the second time you did, when it was little too late.
Whoopsie at me using the wrong forum account again. It's been a long day.
We can't undo the past, but we can work towards changing the future. For now, however, let's not discuss this here. You've got my Skype. Those actions, as I had stated, prompted the start of the Delta event, which was a lot of (albeit very full of rulebreaking) fun for some people. It sparked a mass of activity.
I believe it would be more efficient and less floody if you discussed all this over a skype conversation...seriously guys. Queue people saying "we don't need your input".
OR consider a TeamSpeak conference tomorrow when everyone is awake.
(05-13-2016, 06:11 AM)Vendetta Wrote: Whoopsie at me using the wrong forum account again. It's been a long day.
We can't undo the past, but we can work towards changing the future. For now, however, let's not discuss this here. You've got my Skype. Those actions, as I had stated, prompted the start of the Delta event, which was a lot of (albeit very full of rulebreaking) fun for some people. It sparked a mass of activity.
It's been a long day for a lot of people. I keep using the wrong forum account.
And what's done is done. The future is up to Overwatch, and I'm merely 2iC.
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Quote:seeing a individual group who wanted to wipe out the 'Artifacts' trade ! Still I don't see whats the story behind this ? Corsair didn't even hunt any of your people , oh wait am not crying. well whatever....
As to why they want to stop the Artifact trade? It's in the OP.
Actually... a TBH Pilot actually did once-upon-a-time come to Texas to attack me, after sending a nice warning message over PM that they'll want my characters head. So, that remotivated the whole character-arc of hating the Corsairs.
(05-13-2016, 06:02 AM)Darku Wrote: that wasn't the first time tbh, you even docked in Order base I was there and A/) hunt Order vessel
That was an error. The person behind it wasn't aware of what was going on in the game as they returned from a very long break. I informed Golanski over PM about the error, and he ok'd it.
Quote:OR consider a TeamSpeak conference tomorrow when everyone is awake.
This can be considered as some form of Q&A I guess, so that people won't repeat the same question.
Jeremy Wrote:Plus, every Resheph is technically a flying Spyglass Scanner, so seeing those who enter Omicron 92,where we would have all scanners pointed at due to security reasons...? How is that even an argument?
aren't sensors reduced/hindered in Omicron 92 anyway?