(09-27-2016, 11:39 PM)Char Aznable Wrote: So what you're saying is that if I have negative feedback I should just say nothing? That's not exactly helpful either. I voiced my impression of the faction, I did neither attack nor insult anyone.
Negative feedback is part of the process of creating. If you can't deal with it, you should not even try.
No, what we're saying is that your negative feedback can barely be considered a feedback. You claim it wasn't an attack nor an insult but you went straight to assumptions, assuming things is not the sign of good feedback.
If you want to make a real feedback, it should be on what you've read, not on things you, (emphasis here) YOURSELF assume. A good feedback is also generally followed by tips, tricks, help, anything to make things better. Your posts sounding like nothing more than straight up shut down posts.
Also the last one was copypasted, no lie about that but this one isn't a copy paste. Sure it might have not been written by him but this is actual original work, I don't know why you keep adding that copypasting rhetoric to your posts that doesn't have anything to do with his new faction page.
There was a tip, one that I reinforced twice, actually. The last paragraph of both of my posts. I get that negative criticism might look attacking, and that me assuming things based on reactions might look like I want to shut down something, but I don't. In fact, I always like to see new players, and I especially like them try new things.
Your defensive attitude however shows that you seem to have misread the posts, probably not intentionally, but you did. I advised to read up on how Discovery RP works, and maybe put that to use. And I stand by that.
(09-27-2016, 11:01 PM)Arioch Wrote: Better than the copy/paste of the Zoner lore, but what ID are you guys using? If Freelancer, do you plan on taking on escort/bounty contracts to hunt down your enemies? If not a Freelancer ID, Bounty Hunter? I'm curious how you'll go about fulfilling your goals.
Also, where do you base out of? Do you have a base of operations? Do you use Civilian or Borderworld ships?
We are using Freelancer ID, yes we plan taking escorts. Our base of operation is Omega 49 Gran Caneria.
The issue I would take with that is Gran Canaria is a ZONER planet, not a Freelancer one. Given your background, you could potentially piss off a LOT of people/faction, which would draw them to Omega-49 and Gran Canaria. Keep in mind that Omega-49 has a system-wide No-Fire Zone, per the CoF laws here. Might I recommend not basing off of Gran Canaria, given it doesn't make sense for a group such as yours to be located there? If anything, you'd be better set to base off of Barrier Gate Station, a Freelancer station that is more centrally located in Sirius, thus you're able to interact with a lot more than just Mollys and Corsairs that surround Omega-49 (Again, you shot anyone in Omega-49 as a bounty or escort, you'll be in big trouble with the native Zoners there...).
(09-27-2016, 11:49 PM)Char Aznable Wrote: There was a tip, one that I reinforced twice, actually. The last paragraph of both of my posts. I get that negative criticism might look attacking, and that me assuming things based on reactions might look like I want to shut down something, but I don't. In fact, I always like to see new players, and I especially like them try new things.
Your defensive attitude however shows that you seem to have misread the posts, probably not intentionally, but you did. I advised to read up on how Discovery RP works, and maybe put that to use. And I stand by that.
Yes I whole-heartedly agree with the last part and I have nothing to say about that.
About the first half of this post though, I am not being as defensive as you think. If you say it yourself that you get the your negative criticism might have looked like an attack and that your assumptions might have looked like you're trying to shut down something then it's short-sighted to assume that I could see it as any other way.
If you want them to try new things, it's good to take a few more minutes to write a more constructive post or a less ambiguous one. Especially for players that English might not be their first language. I can see that this man's native language is not English so if I have difficulties seeing your between the lines then I'm sure this man simply doesn't see them at all.
Okaaay, gotta risk it and write here. First, I kinda like the "vigilante" wibe of theis faction. That's something missing here allright. Now, the name... I don't know but it seems... just not okay... not right. Too... selfrighteous, and to be fair, absolutelly immersion breaking. Childish even. My suggestion, try to find something more serious. Good luck with the faction.
(09-28-2016, 12:07 AM)Demonic Wrote: Okaaay, gotta risk it and write here. First, I kinda like the "vigilante" wibe of theis faction. That's something missing here allright. Now, the name... I don't know but it seems... just not okay... not right. Too... selfrighteous, and to be fair, absolutelly immersion breaking. Childish even. My suggestion, try to find something more serious. Good luck with the faction.
What this one here said.
It just...doesn't seem like the kind of thing any group of self-respecting individuals would fly under the name of. I mean you can take a look at existing factions and find plenty of solid names. Even with a concept that sounds silly such as 'Terrorist Farmers' And yet, LWB and the Farmer's Alliance are both solid tittles.
Maybe take a name that doesn't beat people over the head with it's goals? Something neutral and decent like..... The Guardian Agenda, or the Freelance Defense Initiative? Perhaps the Interplanetary Cavalry Association? Giving out the idea that you're this global protector, ready to help anyone that needs it, as seems to be your goal.
Okey guys listen up mind your bussnis here i see you only give bad comments dont comment anymore okey ai know you all are "best" in factions give us a break we want to creata on our own, i dont need comments of you i see you just mean bad than give us a break we will do as wee want. -.- you guys are bored
(09-28-2016, 08:06 AM)3MAJ Wrote: Okey guys listen up mind your bussnis here i see you only give bad comments dont comment anymore okey ai know you all are "best" in factions give us a break we want to creata on our own, i dont need comments of you i see you just mean bad than give us a break we will do as wee want. -.- you guys are bored
Hey guys just thinking everyone who commented believe it or not actually wanted to help out.
Personally i think your write up is a good start but like everyone else I think you should put a bit of effort into getting a better name as your current one is as others have said a bit lackluster.
I'm interested to see how you will act in game. Good luck.
Also maybe you should re check the rules like say this one
2.1 Everything must be in understandable English
(09-28-2016, 08:06 AM)3MAJ Wrote: Okey guys listen up mind your bussnis here i see you only give bad comments dont comment anymore okey ai know you all are "best" in factions give us a break we want to creata on our own, i dont need comments of you i see you just mean bad than give us a break we will do as wee want. -.- you guys are bored
That's.....just not a very nice way to put things, a bit bigoted actually. Some of the criticisms and feedbacks in this thread were well meant, if Ill defined. No one here is claiming to be of a 'best' or 'better' faction, everyone is just trying to make sure yours gets the best chance and start possible. Saying 'We'll do as we see fit' is the first step on turning people away from your faction. Calling Negative feedback 'bad' commenting is childish. In reality, people have differences, It's in embracing these differences and growing from them that we truly come out as individuals. So rather than calling a comment bad, perhaps you should try to gleam the merits it contains instead.
(09-28-2016, 08:23 AM)Snoflek Wrote: That's.....just not a very nice way to put things, a bit bigoted actually. Some of the criticisms and feedbacks in this thread were well meant, if Ill defined. No one here is claiming to be of a 'best' or 'better' faction, everyone is just trying to make sure yours gets the best chance and start possible. Saying 'We'll do as we see fit' is the first step on turning people away from your faction. Calling Negative feedback 'bad' commenting is childish. In reality, people have differences, It's in embracing these differences and growing from them that we truly come out as individuals. So rather than calling a comment bad, perhaps you should try to gleam the merits it contains instead.
Man we just create this faction and we want to start it something you guys always need to have bad comments or something if you have bad comments dont post!
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