(01-25-2017, 04:13 PM)Omicega Wrote: Jack is, as usual, incapable of seeing anything outside his own narrow worldview. The idea that GRN players might have stopped logging into Tau-44 simply because they weren't having fun hasn't occurred to him yet, because having a higher killcount is, to him, a sure-fire indicator that we are still the devil. This is in complete ignorance of the fact that anything with a GRN| tag is, these days, promptly treated as if it were a DPC member and bludgeoned to death with an entire combined fleet worth of snubs and caps.
Of course, Jack wouldn't know this either since he hasn't touched anything GRN IDed since around 2014.
Constantly going up against six cruisers is something I'd call insurmountable odds. Doesn't matter if there were Valors or not. That many is enough to kill anything, really.
(01-25-2017, 03:50 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Plus: you cannot convince me that this is not a "we boycot and win on another ID" move. I have been on Disco for too long to buy your "It's totally not that", and you even said yourself that some might have made it look like it.
Yeah, it's called common sense to say that, because neither you nor I can see into the head of the people, even when you think you can guess everyone's intentions. So let's rather stay within the facts, and while I surely don't need to name people here, it should be obvious that Gallia-related stuff is less popular than for example the Maltese-related stuff with it's many inofficial factions, a way more powerful ID that has a ZoI in all the active spots of Discovery (Liberty, Bretonia, Omicrons) and capital ship access while also having one of the more fleshed-out and versatile lore offers. There are so many anchor points the OCs have the Gallics don't have, as they are simply mad french people.
So, yeah, conspiracy theories are always hilarious, but they are theory.
I am trying to stay out of this debate or what ever you folks are doing, but Sombra you speak about the OC's having a more powerful ID over Gallic's, well let's change it around a bit. Take a look at the CR ID and tell me what is so powerful about that, our ZOI is restricted to Taus and Bretonia space, in Bretonia we can't shoot Outcasts, we can only shoot GRN, but in Taus we can shoot both. Now OC are more popular in the Omicrons or Liberty not in the Taus so this is boring for the CR ID players, but the GRN has a RESTART in Tau 23 so it is easier for GRN to make ships for the Taus. Not only that but the GRN have a LARGER Zoi and power based ID over the CR ID anyway.
Let's put it this way GRN and OC can both go to Bretonia, Taus, but CR can't go into Gallia OR the Omicrons and shoot first, or raid or any of that. So it is a one sided fight. CR are restricted to alot of things unless they have allies around. CR wont see any Council players inside Gallia because of low activity, but also which allies of CR Goes into Omicron Tau and Omicron Alpha. So raids there can't be done either. So your point on the OC ID is all round better than GRN ID is stupid, think about the other players perspective and so on, and also I know you hate me so no sarcastic comments.
(01-25-2017, 04:13 PM)Omicega Wrote: Jack is, as usual, incapable of seeing anything outside his own narrow worldview. The idea that GRN players might have stopped logging into Tau-44 simply because they weren't having fun hasn't occurred to him yet, because having a higher killcount is, to him, a sure-fire indicator that we are still the devil. This is in complete ignorance of the fact that anything with a GRN| tag is, these days, promptly treated as if it were a DPC member and bludgeoned to death with an entire combined fleet worth of snubs and caps.
Of course, Jack wouldn't know this either since he hasn't touched anything GRN IDed since around 2014.
Constantly going up against six cruisers is something I'd call insurmountable odds. Doesn't matter if there were Valors or not. That many is enough to kill anything, really.
It got boring and wasn't fun logging anymore.
Right it's funny you all say going up against caps are boring and so on, but wait a second, how many times do I need to say that CR are not pvp whore players such as GRN and OC IDs. We all know GRN and OC have the best pvp players on fighters on the server. I can give list of names, why not try balance the fight and make the fights fair by logging on the OTHER SIDE to help balance it instead of making it a one sided fight. If I am not mistaken did the GRN side not win 2 fights in a ROW because of snubs, skill, the ability. The GRN won two fights while being out numbered (if I am not mistaken) without loosing a SINGLE PLAYER. So ofcourse you are not having fun because you do not have a challenge and a fight that is teh same skill ability as you, or expierence, so stop being stupid and pathetic, and start playing fair and not we should just kill everything and have it over and done with. Maybe the Tau 44 event was pre-scripted to MAKE activity inside the Taus again after it being dead for years on end. I remember the times where Taus where always full of activity, huge fights on the weekend, balanced fights at that with skilled players on both sides. I remember know a few of the XTF players where in both IMG and OC side in these fights to make it fair and enjoyable for everyone. I do not see the GRN or OC players trying to do this at all, but just having a little laugh and giggle between them and to see who can get the most blues and make the most money on new, rookie, below average players with troll loadouts, or pathetic coward play. Where the hell has the sportsman ship gone in this community, we have already witness alot of players leave due to demotivation caused by this specific group of players for not balancing fights. Now if I am not mistaken the Corsairs and BAF make events where they inform and tell the RHA leadership not to get involved but still get involved to RUIN the fun for others.
WOW ppl, just chill a little. Only point i disagree in all that, is OC fleet being able to skyp war in their way.
Siege system is wrong, i suppose, as defender can never win, if we win, attacker lose nothing, except maybe some hours of ship moving, if defender loses, half year of work of several ppl destroyed. Isnt fair. Maybe change things a little, make caps lost at sieges been really lost. So if defenders risk billions loss, so does the attacker: OC wanna risk 15 caps worthing 1.5 billions each? no but now they risk nothing. thats the main problem. Attacker can just keep attacking until win, as Wesker said on one previous siege, would do again, and again, till win. But, if lost caps needed to be replaced, things would change, i suppose. Or if not lost, but need expensive repairs, like dor dead ones ships price, equipments back for free (because cau8 really expensive,as well as cloaks, jumpdrives, fancy sacanners etc)
For the rest, chill and play
Were supposed to have fun
(01-25-2017, 04:13 PM)Omicega Wrote: Jack is, as usual, incapable of seeing anything outside his own narrow worldview. The idea that GRN players might have stopped logging into Tau-44 simply because they weren't having fun hasn't occurred to him yet, because having a higher killcount is, to him, a sure-fire indicator that we are still the devil. This is in complete ignorance of the fact that anything with a GRN| tag is, these days, promptly treated as if it were a DPC member and bludgeoned to death with an entire combined fleet worth of snubs and caps.
Of course, Jack wouldn't know this either since he hasn't touched anything GRN IDed since around 2014.
Aha. Nice try to turn things around.
GRN stopped having fun once they actually had a fight on their hands?
The first 2 fights were carnages, with 100 % losses against 0 losses. I am sure you enjoyed those enough to come again every time. Sure sure.
The fact is, that in the 3rd fight GRN attacked in a weaker position, against a strong CR fleet, and accepted a few requests I made before the fight (do not attack the fight leader + GRN attacks, so CR does not have to fight a moving battle). There was no complaining when we talked and agreed about it on TS. CR won this round, and still gave 5 or so blues. Objectively speaking, it was a much more interesting battle than every battle before in this event.
Then, I thank the GRN players for allowing for the advantage, but I only get scorn and hate in return by the great memers. For saying 'thank you'.
So, GRN players lost fun because you did not win for the first time?
And they did not find it worth participating any more?
That's for sure what the ultra-pouty reaction looks like that I was given after I thanked you for allowing for a motivating success for the side that was steamrolled around 30:3 at that time.
I expected more fights for Tau 44 then on. Of course without eased conditions once it was proven that there actually can be fights, and that it does not have to end in a 1:10 massacre every time. But... no.
So, you can say about me what you want, Omi. But in this one, you are just wrong and you are pulling the victim card. Furthermore, I find it a very poor move to decide to not bring a faction to an event that is made for your faction - even if it is not the great position your factions has been set to hold in the event.
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