(01-25-2017, 04:25 PM)Shaggy Wrote: GRN and OC have the best pvp players on fighters on the server.
Excuse me RHA is FAR more superior in terms of pvp and RP in comparison to these two jokes.
you cannot defeat our fisheye
To me, it seems that there is barely any difference when it comes to the pvp-relevant core players of the factions GRN, RHA and L\- . Correct me if I am wrong.
(01-25-2017, 08:06 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Aha. Nice try to turn things around.
GRN stopped having fun once they actually had a fight on their hands?
The first 2 fights were carnages, with 100 % losses against 0 losses. I am sure you enjoyed those enough to come again every time. Sure sure.
The fact is, that in the 3rd fight GRN attacked in a weaker position, against a strong CR fleet, and accepted a few requests I made before the fight (do not attack the fight leader + GRN attacks, so CR does not have to fight a moving battle). There was no complaining when we talked and agreed about it on TS. CR won this round, and still gave 5 or so blues. Objectively speaking, it was a much more interesting battle than every battle before in this event.
Then, I thank the GRN players for allowing for the advantage, but I only get scorn and hate in return by the great memers. For saying 'thank you'.
So, GRN players lost fun because you did not win for the first time?
And they did not find it worth participating any more?
That's for sure what the ultra-pouty reaction looks like that I was given after I thanked you for allowing for a motivating success for the side that was steamrolled around 30:3 at that time.
I expected more fights for Tau 44 then on. Of course without eased conditions once it was proven that there actually can be fights, and that it does not have to end in a 1:10 massacre every time. But... no.
So, you can say about me what you want, Omi. But in this one, you are just wrong and you are pulling the victim card. Furthermore, I find it a very poor move to decide to not bring a faction to an event that is made for your faction - even if it is not the great position your factions has been set to hold in the event.
Jack, if you want I will ask a few of my quieter members to chime in on their experiences in Tau-44. Please don't blame me for my members losing personal interest after cruisers dive in to LM snubs and generally just piss all over everything with an official faction tag.
I know a good fight when I see one, but watching half our side relog for the CR after a server crash does not fill me with enthusiasm. You should have been thanking us for bothering to put up any resistance at all after that point rather than logging out.
I don't need your appreciation or thank-yous for showing up to be massacred by caps. I have much better things to spend my time on than trying - again - to prop up a lopsided event with the tiny, ever-shrinking memberbase left to me. We are almost entirely carried by our indies if and when they bother to show up - but again, you wouldn't have a single clue about this since you're still living in the past. This isn't 2014 anymore, and I am not able to pull Haste, Dan, Redon, Impy, and Jayce out of my ass to stop ludicrously sized fleets from running us over like a freight train hitting a deer.
I know I'm wasting my time trying to reason with you, since everything I've ever said to you since I hit GRN| HC in early 2014 has seemed like a waste of time and effort, but if you could for once get it through your skull that things are not 'magically better' just because you can outnumber GRN as a whole by a factor of almost 2:1 and eventually reach critical mass of cruisers, gunboats, and assorted snubs. All you have ever, ever, ever done since quitting the Punishers is moan, whinge, and cry about GRN| ever doing anything near you, and always from your own viewpoint on the other side of the fence. Not once do you ever try to see things my way, not once have you ever tried, and I doubt you will ever try either. I sincerely hope CR| aren't sending you out as representative of their PoV, because you are as much of a hindrance to relations between GRN| and its opposing factions as you have ever been.
(01-25-2017, 08:10 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: To me, it seems that there is barely any difference when it comes to the pvp-relevant core players of the factions GRN, RHA and L\- . Correct me if I am wrong.
You are, as usual, wrong, unless you are counting @Wesker and @Sanja as the entirety of each faction's "pvp-relevant core players".
I do not know what world you live in Omi, but facts just point against it: GRN won every event at least with a 2:1. Statistics do not lie. Numbers do not lie.
So, the narrative of the overkill forces "running us over like a freight train hitting a deer"... ehm... It must be a pretty weak freight trains if the deers score twice as many trains as the trains claim deers. And damn, those deers ruling 30:3... poor trains!
And no, I am not a representative of CR.
I am just speaking out my own opinion that seems to be diametrally opposite to yours, but we got somewhat used to that, I guess.
I'm very glad that you enjoyed the third fight, Jack. It was really fun for the GRN side as well.
I was so very happy to see our capital players sit absolutely defenceless getting shot by multiple capitals each, outnumbered and disrupted with no chance of fair play.
I personally was flying a snub, and I really enjoyed how every snub pilot retreated to the capitals when shot, whom then proceeded to snipe the snubs one by one using razors with no chance of fair play. The thrill of having nothing to do there but flail around dodging razors was a very nice addition to the event. The majority, if not every single one of the snub players that participated in the battle died to capital fire. The capitals died in a couple of minutes.
I did not have the time to log for every single battle and that was the first one I've participated in, so I can't say about the rest. I hope you'll understand why I will advocate doing for the same fair play that made you enjoy the event. It does sound fun indeed. This will be great motivation for our side as well.
Or perhaps I'm a "great memer", I suppose. Everyone who speaks on GRN's side falls under that umbrella in the end.
@Ramke : And now guess how the CR side felt after being wrecked by GRN snubs twice before that, with zero kills and around a 30:3 score?
What you got at least was a "fight" that had blue messages on both sides, and despite losing this third round, the GRN scored quite a few there.
If GRN complains about such a fight so hard and if that kills the motivation to come for more, I would have loved GRN people to be in the boots of the CR groups that were just razed in the first two. Because actually, they took it well and came back for more.
(01-25-2017, 10:10 PM)Sanja Wrote: You implying that fighting in snubs when enemy side got more cruisers and gunboats with instakill loadouts than we got snubs can be possibly enjoyable even in theory?
Are you implying that being killed ~ 10:0 twice in a row in snubs by superior snubs flown by vastly superior players is enjoyable?
(01-25-2017, 10:10 PM)Sanja Wrote: You implying that fighting in snubs when enemy side got more cruisers and gunboats with instakill loadouts than we got snubs can be possibly enjoyable even in theory?
Are you implying that being killed ~ 10:0 twice in a row in snubs by superior snubs flown by vastly superior players is enjoyable?
I played as a CR ship from 2013-2014. I've constantly flown against the GRN from 2013-2016 as an indie and 94% of the time I lost. It was honestly more fun dying to the GRN than it has ever been flying for them the few and far between times I was actually motivated to log the side that's constantly vilified by the factions in the game. This event is no different than that. If half of those cruisers were on snubs, or even gunboats would've been acceptable IMO, I'd probably have been bothered to log more, but no.
It isn't fun. So pat yourselves on the back for doing a fantastic job and having fun while I go log other factions and enjoy interactions elsewhere.
(01-25-2017, 10:17 PM)Vendetta Wrote: It isn't fun. So pat yourselves on the back for doing a fantastic job and having fun while I go log other factions and enjoy interactions elsewhere.
We did, didn´t we? Fun is something subjective, but winning the other side when you study theirs tactics and use a countertactic is a good job if you win and... funny too.
Just gonna say it because it appears people who can't win do this, or they just give up, but CR we have stayed fighting, we fought through low activity, low numbers, no motivated players, with a new leadership, we are pushing hard for activity against our enemies of OC and GRN and this event has been on the desk waiting to be process since early 2016 late 2015 or maybe even longer as a series off events. But for those people who join them instead of fight them this little saying and quote is for you.