5th Fleet - Feedback

[Kauket]

20 million? ill have to check my logs, i saw a 3 million fine said.

Edit 1 : [12.02.2017 22:41:04] 5th|John;Sader: Pay a fine of 3 million credits for hauling contraband

I paid 5 million to a total of 4 LN indies during the same run. This is why I PM'd in the first place. I also stated I was doing missions because the end station of the run was undockable.

That is no where near my problem... you got caught and you got fined... any reasonable person would do their best to not get caught again... im sorry you had this issue but i dont deal in PM role play.

Edit 1: Doing a mission or not, dont be so close to the trade lane... thats how i found you.

I didn't get fined, I got a full cargo drop demanded of me, plus a fine.

No pirate would do that.

yeah but the Navy are lawfuls, and can demand both, since you are breaking the law afterall. He could have also just killed you on the spot - which is the other option.

[Kalhmera]

20 million? ill have to check my logs, i saw a 3 million fine said.

Edit 1 : [12.02.2017 22:41:04] 5th|John;Sader: Pay a fine of 3 million credits for hauling contraband

I paid 5 million to a total of 4 LN indies during the same run. This is why I PM'd in the first place. I also stated I was doing missions because the end station of the run was undockable.

That is no where near my problem... you got caught and you got fined... any reasonable person would do their best to not get caught again... im sorry you had this issue but i dont deal in PM role play.

Edit 1: Doing a mission or not, dont be so close to the trade lane... thats how i found you.

I didn't get fined, I got a full cargo drop demanded of me, plus a fine.

No pirate would do that.

We are not pirates we are lawful... you broke several laws, you had to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

[Kalhmera]

If there is no question or concern i consider this matter closed. Please read Liberty Laws for further clarification, or if you have any actual question we shall be here to assist you.

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[Jayce]

20 million? ill have to check my logs, i saw a 3 million fine said.

Edit 1 : [12.02.2017 22:41:04] 5th|John;Sader: Pay a fine of 3 million credits for hauling contraband

I paid 5 million to a total of 4 LN indies during the same run. This is why I PM'd in the first place. I also stated I was doing missions because the end station of the run was undockable.

That is no where near my problem... you got caught and you got fined... any reasonable person would do their best to not get caught again... im sorry you had this issue but i dont deal in PM role play.

Edit 1: Doing a mission or not, dont be so close to the trade lane... thats how i found you.

I didn't get fined, I got a full cargo drop demanded of me, plus a fine.

No pirate would do that.

yeah but the Navy are lawfuls, and can demand both, since you are breaking the law afterall. He could have also just killed you on the spot - which is the other option.

>Transport

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[Kauket]

>Transport

there's no indication in the rule thread that transports are immune to getting shot without a demand or w/e the line was.

[Tutashkhia]

Really bad to find myself in this feedback thread again, but to be honest, I don't care. Unite it for BHG, LSF and anyone else who is involved. This post is made for the whole community.

I'm not a kind of person who writes this kind of stories all the time when he gets killed, this is the first time during the 8 years of experience in this game. And you really need to understand that this was necessary to do so. Otherwise, just for getting killed I would never (and have never) posted something like this.

Are you serious? I'm sure, almost all of you will go like "Look, Tuta is crying, QQing, complaining". Think whatever you want, just open your eyes and look at this picture not as it's just a picture, but try to understand something from it. I can guess your arguments too, it will be: "Oh man, you're maybe the most wanted terrorist/criminal/pirate in the Liberty, so it shouldn't be unexpected for you". "What else do you expect?" Come on.

First of all, thank you for overestimating my skills. Thanks for your expectations from me. Thank you for thinking that I'm a skilled person, and you don't risk yourself to give me a 1 vs 1 fight in such situations (I don't even ask for it). But, do you really think you need so many forces just to kill a lone Gunboat? And it's not just about the numbers, continue reading.

Secondly, couldn't you just in such situation, at least just give a command, something like this: "Battleships, stand by, we've it under control". The result would be the same, I would die with no doubt, but it would have a meaning. Even those few words would have a meaning that would motivate me to give you a fair encounter any time I see you. Tell me now, why the hell should I show any mercy to even a lone Gunboat whenever or wherever I encounter him/her? Just tell me. And if you tell me that you get ganked from me, then look inside your hearts, and say yourself, have I really done anything like this sh***t to any of you? Have any of you seen me, with my friends, sh***ing around with a lone Gunboat, Fighter, or anything? Have any of you seen me ordering all the 2 Battleships, 2 Gunboats, and a lot of snubs to GANK THAT SH*** GUNBOAT? From this, I understand one thing, you really hate encounters with me, I know, I'm not perfect, neither even close to good, but I'm not that terrible, I'm not that ridiculous, I'm not that sorrowful.

Just think about it boys and girls. I'm not here complaining because I died, I got killed in fights really a lot of times, and those who know my a bit closely (even enemies) know that I get fun from 99% of fights too. I'm here complaining about this s*** going around here, not only with me, but with any victim you find alone. This is not a game, this is not a gameplay, this is no fun, this is SHIT.

One person once said: "People respond to incentives". And this isn't just 4 words, and I hope I don't have to explain this(Gregory Mankiw said this). I'm sure everyone can understand, realize and think rationally, I hope that you will understand this citation too, or at least you will try to.

Cheers.

P.S In case this picture gets deleted (and I'm afraid it will), here is the link of the original screenshot, or maybe it's not even needed, just have it in case you need it: Here

P.S.S I think everyone should understand this in details: "People respond to incentives". In your place, I would never expect anything good, fair, normal from the other side after this kind of attitude.

[Enkidu]

POSITIVE FEEDBACK ALERT

I've been critical of 5th in the past, but I thought 5th was the most fair and ballanced part of that PvP in Texas from a Unioner perspective. I wasn't there for the bit Tutashkhia was in.

The 5th gunboat deserves the most praise, due to not going after the fighters and going after the UN gunboat. Absolute kudos to him. Kahl also deserves praise for not piling his Osiris in at the end of the fight, just going to look around. Great work.


The log-for-the-fight indies and LSF (although the LSF did pull back), were very much the problem from my perspective, and I've posted about it elsewhere. 5th roleplayed, were funny, brought a smile to my face. The people who piled in and brought an even battle (two snubs v two, one cap v cap, one GB v GB), into a pile up, did do a doo-doo, but 5th wasn't the provocateur of that.


Well done 5th. I'm more at ease when it comes to running into you guys again.

[Kauket]

Just tell me. And if you tell me that you get ganked from me, then look inside your hearts, and say yourself, have I really done anything like this sh***t to any of you? Have any of you seen me, with my friends, sh***ing around with a lone Gunboat, Fighter, or anything?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[thisDerius]

So... You are talking to us about 4 indies who will listen to us 0%, a bounty hunter that won't fall back because you are money, an LSF who logged for once in 10 years (no offense) who would want to shoot criminals and 2 5th guys that really don't like you. Dude. Seriously.

You ganged up on us too. I got ganked by 4 OC Battleships/Dreads along with you and a few destroyers and I did not do anything, but you are here because our 2 ships were shooting you along with people who we have no control of. Sorry mate, but we had the same thing as you where you could have controlled your friends, but did not.

You have to expect what will come out of the RP in game. I would not expect 2-3 ships on me if I was there too, in RL.

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[Tutashkhia]

Link me the whole video.

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