Royal Navy Foreign Legion - Feedback

[Tristan Duval]

I can not understand why there are so many dramma and salt around these two factions. Why can not there be two official military factions? Why do you work against each other? Instead, we could improve our RP and develop factions together, but no, we would prefer to have some OOC-dramma.
Legion and MRG are cimpletly different factions with own preferences and goals, so all this dicsussions... They are useless. But they exist. Why? Who knows.
I really believe that [RN] and MRG| have to cooperate and work together without this *****.
And, if to be honest, I was a bit upset by last events. When I was trying to RP, you had drama in OOC-chat. Instead of it, we could discuss a plan of attack and etc.
When I was trying to stop this carrier with anti-snub weaponry and Crayterian in addition, where were my allies?
Legion has many issues and problems. But we have to sort it out, anyway.
I do not want to blame you, but I really want it to stop. This drama has gone too far.
The frienship is magic, anyway.

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I really wanted to make it a pure RP charater.
And yes, I returned in [RN], but I'm not in HC, anymore. Just an outsider without power.
BW, please, don't kick me again :c

Never I love you x

Well, then I have to say, that I'm going to join in MRG, as well.

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It's a good day to die,
When you know the reasons why.
Citizens we fight for what is right,
A noble sacrifice.

[Cælumaresh]

Widow, I gotta say, its quite sad to see you yet again go as low as to toss about personal insults towards Shelco, who indeed pointed out some valid feedback as to your actions. I saw the logs myself, and he isn't wrong. Your defensive, borderline insulting attitude only further reinforces this point.

You say the MRG are basically the old GRN, but you couldnt be more wrong. We got, what? 1 - 2 old GRN members? That isnt the GRN of ye auld days. As Wesker so neatly pointed out to me over skype, the MRG treats their foreign relations as they should be. According to the gallic view, all the houses of sirius are lesser beings beneath the kings heel. We dont buddy buddy up to them, we treat them like the dirt you scrape of your boots before spitting on it. Try to reflect this into the RN's foreign relations aswell.

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This Galaxy is vast; its wonders and beauty are almost unfathomable. But the galaxy also hides dark secrets, some of which have lain dormant since the beginning of time itself. There is a danger in secrets, both in seeking and in knowing. Some things are meant to be hidden from view. Some mysteries defy understanding, and sometimes even the things we think we know are untrue. Some secrets should remain untouched.

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

[The Kingdom of Bretonia]

Mmm, the sight of enemies fighting amongst each other... Do continue.

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[Cælumaresh]

Mmm, the sight of enemies fighting amongst each other... Do continue.

I love you

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This Galaxy is vast; its wonders and beauty are almost unfathomable. But the galaxy also hides dark secrets, some of which have lain dormant since the beginning of time itself. There is a danger in secrets, both in seeking and in knowing. Some things are meant to be hidden from view. Some mysteries defy understanding, and sometimes even the things we think we know are untrue. Some secrets should remain untouched.

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

[Wesker]

I feel the MRG are a GRN| revamp and a second attempt at them trying to hold power with a new faction MRG:

- given the timing of their officialdom app
- disbanding of the GRN|
- Sici's endorsement of MRG as being a best example of Gallic rp he had seen when MRG had no RP before their officialdom app was released
- all GRN| players moving to MRG after the GRN disbanded
- Sici using alts to form rp with the MRG via the Custodi faction

I mean I could go on and on about an elitist Gallic Navy faction that pummelled Gallia into the ground, disbanded itself only try and come back under a different faction name

If I were to look at the MRG there is nothing unique about them, if they became official it would just be GRN| all over again.

Tell me Shelco what is unique about the MRG? You even said yourself that in French MRG = GRN....... Your just a de facto GRN|, I think your members are even using the GRN| ID

I would rather see Thunderers <AG faction take your spot they at least have something original.

But yeh RP wise, forum effort, originality, server presence RN all the way baby.

Oh and the third in command who got booted out, well we sorted our differences and we are now moving forward together and I can happily say she is with us again.

Shelco I tell you now, the cancer that was eating at discovery we will root it out!

I'm bored out of my skull so this is the part where I look to feedback threads to entertain me.



You're speaking as if GRN| had the wrong idea from the start, or weren't RPing the Gallic Royal Navy faction and the house of Gallia properly. The reality is quite the opposite, everything GRN did, especially in the cases of Kusari, bases in Leeds, and how they handled foreign affairs was pretty much spot on how you'd expect to see the Gallic Royal Navy acting given how aggressive and organized they're by their lore. The argument of MRG being a GRN mk2 is wrong, the argument of MRG using a similar RP style to that of GRN and it being "bad" is wrong, MRG is not entirely GRN at all in terms of members and their general approach on recruits and oorp related things that affect the faction, speaking inrp wise, it does base its general approach on inrp situations from GRN, which isn't bad at all. GRN never approached inrp scenarios "wrong" at all, in fact, there were some pretty awesome ideas in line for the faction before it fell apart. With MRG acting on the same line with a much more diverse group of players and a different approach to ingame actions, mixed with using a similar RP style to GRN, they're actually more bound to be successful than anyone else. Look at the faction, it has a lot of members, more and more people applying to it, and we didn't need to offer gunboats as an incentive to join the faction. AG is a remake of B}, and we all know how successful B} was, if you don't know, it wasn't successful at all. I don't mind the people in AG, but you and I both know that faction is really just an incentive to motivate what's left of the GRN indie playerbase. As for your faction, I could go into how it doesn't really make sense at all if we put things logically inrp wise into perspective, but I'm not in the business of burning factions or playerbases to the ground anymore? hehehehehe. I don't hate you, I don't even mind RN if I'm honest, you're trying to do something productive and that's not bad at all. But taking a dump on MRG based on the thought that "oh they're GRN mk2 in everyway and GRN was garbage" is really really really really really really weak.

[Black Widow]

I feel the MRG are a GRN| revamp and a second attempt at them trying to hold power with a new faction MRG:

- given the timing of their officialdom app
- disbanding of the GRN|
- Sici's endorsement of MRG as being a best example of Gallic rp he had seen when MRG had no RP before their officialdom app was released
- all GRN| players moving to MRG after the GRN disbanded
- Sici using alts to form rp with the MRG via the Custodi faction

I mean I could go on and on about an elitist Gallic Navy faction that pummelled Gallia into the ground, disbanded itself only try and come back under a different faction name

If I were to look at the MRG there is nothing unique about them, if they became official it would just be GRN| all over again.

Tell me Shelco what is unique about the MRG? You even said yourself that in French MRG = GRN....... Your just a de facto GRN|, I think your members are even using the GRN| ID

I would rather see Thunderers <AG faction take your spot they at least have something original.

But yeh RP wise, forum effort, originality, server presence RN all the way baby.

Oh and the third in command who got booted out, well we sorted our differences and we are now moving forward together and I can happily say she is with us again.

Shelco I tell you now, the cancer that was eating at discovery we will root it out!

I'm bored out of my skull so this is the part where I look to feedback threads to entertain me.



You're speaking as if GRN| had the wrong idea from the start, or weren't RPing the Gallic Royal Navy faction and the house of Gallia properly. The reality is quite the opposite, everything GRN did, especially in the cases of Kusari, bases in Leeds, and how they handled foreign affairs was pretty much spot on how you'd expect to see the Gallic Royal Navy acting given how aggressive and organized they're by their lore. The argument of MRG being a GRN mk2 is wrong, the argument of MRG using a similar RP style to that of GRN and it being "bad" is wrong, MRG is not entirely GRN at all in terms of members and their general approach on recruits and oorp related things that affect the faction, speaking inrp wise, it does base its general approach on inrp situations from GRN, which isn't bad at all. GRN never approached inrp scenarios "wrong" at all, in fact, there were some pretty awesome ideas in line for the faction before it fell apart. With MRG acting on the same line with a much more diverse group of players and a different approach to ingame actions, mixed with using a similar RP style to GRN, they're actually more bound to be successful than anyone else. Look at the faction, it has a lot of members, more and more people applying to it, and we didn't need to offer gunboats as an incentive to join the faction. AG is a remake of B}, and we all know how successful B} was, if you don't know, it wasn't successful at all. I don't mind the people in AG, but you and I both know that faction is really just an incentive to motivate what's left of the GRN indie playerbase. As for your faction, I could go into how it doesn't really make sense at all if we put things logically inrp wise into perspective, but I'm not in the business of burning factions or playerbases to the ground anymore? hehehehehe. I don't hate you, I don't even mind RN if I'm honest, you're trying to do something productive and that's not bad at all. But taking a dump on MRG based on the thought that "oh they're GRN mk2 in everyway and GRN was garbage" is really really really really really really weak.

Weak? It's the truth mate.

Besides, RN has gone through some restructuring and as such makes perfect sense inrp.

Only officers can be Gallic, only officers can command capships so no sirians captaining a valor. Even the GRN had foreigners fighting for it. RN is just a step further.

What I don't appreciate from Shelco and others are members of MRG coming here and talking all kinds of crap about the RN to other players and even trying to steal members of my HC to reinforce their own ranks. Such actions act to counter a groups a ability to organise and get official.

Shelco has been quite outspoken about us even from the beginning, even when changes were put in place no acknowledgement was made for those efforts but instead he she just continued with their attack on us and done everything to undermine us.

I understand what they trying to do, it's all to try and push us aside but it's not happening.

MRG / GRN are not good for Gallia and for the sake of balance I will make sure RN has a seat at the table.

Elitism kills discovery and I see a lot of it in the MRG.

Gallic rp in general maybe quite xenophobic but at the end of the day it can still have allies, Kusari being a prime example. GRN|s overly hostile approach toward Kusari I think was way out of lore context so much so as to cause an incident that was later retconned by developers as the story generated was way out of context.

I think the GRN were wrong to go down that avenue and I think MRG are wrong to continue it.

I believe Gallia needs Kusari to win this war or they will burn out, and since we are all unofficial now. I am free to develop that rp further and I will make an ally out of Kusari.

There is much activity to be generated from working with them and I think only good will come from continuing that.

I just reread your statement about MRG having lots and lots of people join them they have at least 6 GRN members that's not diverse that's a remake. I don't think they are more successful than anyone else definitely not the RN. Our quality of RP, our ability to create storylines generate activity in game and on the forums, storyline based events. Our input into Gallic rp has been far more superior than that of MRG. Who did no rp before their official faction request, while we had Ouroboros cooking up a storm.

I am proud of what we have achieved so far, I think we are going places.

[Black Widow]

Widow, I gotta say, its quite sad to see you yet again go as low as to toss about personal insults towards Shelco, who indeed pointed out some valid feedback as to your actions. I saw the logs myself, and he isn't wrong. Your defensive, borderline insulting attitude only further reinforces this point.

You say the MRG are basically the old GRN, but you couldnt be more wrong. We got, what? 1 - 2 old GRN members? That isnt the GRN of ye auld days. As Wesker so neatly pointed out to me over skype, the MRG treats their foreign relations as they should be. According to the gallic view, all the houses of sirius are lesser beings beneath the kings heel. We dont buddy buddy up to them, we treat them like the dirt you scrape of your boots before spitting on it. Try to reflect this into the RN's foreign relations aswell.

I won't acknowledge feedback from people who try to sabotage others hard work as Shelco has done, never will you see me go their level that was disgusting. Anything shelco says now will either be ignored or I will nail it to the wall!

MRG have 5 - 6 GRN members not 1 to 2.

[Shinju]

Actually 4... Ramke, me, Antonio and Wesker. But it still doesn't mean anything, because I can see people who would love to continue RP'ing as Gauls.

My opinion, huh.

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my english is my english!

[ASimpleMan]

I don't know. I like both sides. You guys should fight each other till the death so BAF can come in and mop up the rest try to work together. MRG doesn't seem as, well, their player base doesn't seem as bad as the old GRN one was. RN has nice people too. Both sides have decent players atm, at least in my sight. I take pleasure in fighting both sides. I really don't see the reason for you guys to argue with each other. You should at least be pulling an "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" and fight BAF, instead of bickering amongst yourselves. I don't want either faction to be destroyed just because some people got into an argument with each other.

And yes Wesker, AG is kinda dead lmao. I can speak on experience. But I'll still keep my valor with them, cause idk.

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