The Heaven's Gate Seige | December (or longer) | Version 2.0 | Explained

[The Archangels Fighter Club]

Alright, thank you for the clarifications. However, I'd recommend you a different approach to criticism and feedback, rather than giving salty responses. I mean, that's how they appear to me, and I got no idea why.

My suggestion is to summon all the leaders here. Of course of official factions. Of the Order, Blood Dragons, Nomads, Wild (well he is already here) and AFC (here). Let them in continuity write their responses, do they agree with all the terms above, or they do not.

The picture will be more clearer then for everyone. You won't have to deal with stuff that you do not want. It happens because, you did write a lot but you didn't clarify things.

The Archangels Fighter Club has made a Skype group on Sunday, July 02, 2017 at 9:04 AM -5:00 GMT where we had invited Offical Factions to talk about the Heaven's Gate event.
The Skype group is still open and we are not refusing these same people to come forth with their constructive feedback.

The Archangels Fighter Club are not salty. Perhaps you are just reading it strangely. Please refrain from thinking that way.

Thank you for your important feedback. We are happy you commented.

[Lythrilux]

The Archangels Fighter Club has spoken to the higher powers that be and has confirmed that the blueprints are most likely to be there. We have explained why an Emperor's Blueprints would be on the Emperors Stronghold. We will need a more valid source saying they are not there besides a person that was just given apparently Aoi leadership not long ago while in fact this discussion was a long time ago in the making.

I am saying it is not on the Arch.
Fran is saying it is not on the Arch.
Antonio is saying it is not on the Arch.
And from what I've read, the Devs are saying it's not on the Arch either. If you can prove me wrong with a quote, go for it.

Furthermore, the sight of the ship is a rarity. You are asking something that is impossible to do and YOU are cherry picking that instead of blueprints, you want it to be a picture. Tomato, Potato. Blueprints vs Picture.

Are you saying that it is easier to raid a highly fortified alien death fortress with an insignificant number of forces than using Sirius-google to just look pictures of it up? It's a royal ship, the public is bound to have seen it many times.

The Archangels are building the ship. We have expressed that it will be a replica, hence the modification and the act of BUILDING it.
Actually, by definition, a replica means an exact copy. We are in fact not making an exact copy. What is your point?

It means an exact copy yes but that doesn't necessarily entail you require the blueprints to do that. You can do it without the blueprints. You create the replica from, i.e, pictures.

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[PRJKTLRD]

Alright, thank you for the clarifications. However, I'd recommend you a different approach to criticism and feedback, rather than giving salty responses. I mean, that's how they appear to me, and I got no idea why.

My suggestion is to summon all the leaders here. Of course of official factions. Of the Order, Blood Dragons, Nomads, Wild (well he is already here) and AFC (here). Let them in continuity write their responses, do they agree with all the terms above, or they do not.

The picture will be more clearer then for everyone. You won't have to deal with stuff that you do not want. It happens because, you did write a lot but you didn't clarify things.

The Archangels Fighter Club has made a Skype group on Sunday, July 02, 2017 at 9:04 AM -5:00 GMT where we had invited Offical Factions to talk about the Heaven's Gate event.
The Skype group is still open and we are not refusing these same people to come forth with their constructive feedback.

The Archangels Fighter Club are not salty. Perhaps you are just reading it strangely. Please refrain from thinking that way.

Thank you for your important feedback. We are happy you commented.

Well, then bring them here and let them express their decisions. The community doesn't have insight into what you were doing in that skype chat group. All I see here is AFC does this, AFC does that. The AFC is, the AFC is not. There's no word from any of those people, representatives to be seen following up your first post in this thread. Thus, we cannot know and that is why questions are raised.

edit: I mean, you can see that representative of Aoi said that the blueprints aren't there, as well as his predecessor and the person that was before him. So, it will be easier for all of us to see what they have to say here. You did the discussions already in the skype, that's what is not needed here.

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<"From Darkness, lead me to Light. From Ignorance, to Truth. From Death, to Immortality.">

Jared Nomak ||  The rise of the Overlord || The Commune

[Yaoquizque]

Hello.

Reiterating on the question asked earlier in your feedback thread :

If you really want something unique and cool, which I can understand, wouldn't that be funnier to ask someone to make a unique liner for AFC?

You could imagine making something really special and beautiful, with exactly what you want to support the lore of your faction and your needs gameplay wise. Wouldn't that be better than trying to use a model which has a lore somewhat incompatible with what you want to do, and better than trying to push again for that event thing that, well, excuse me to have to say it once more, makes little sense?

[The Archangels Fighter Club]

Alright, thank you for the clarifications. However, I'd recommend you a different approach to criticism and feedback, rather than giving salty responses. I mean, that's how they appear to me, and I got no idea why.

My suggestion is to summon all the leaders here. Of course of official factions. Of the Order, Blood Dragons, Nomads, Wild (well he is already here) and AFC (here). Let them in continuity write their responses, do they agree with all the terms above, or they do not.

The picture will be more clearer then for everyone. You won't have to deal with stuff that you do not want. It happens because, you did write a lot but you didn't clarify things.

The Archangels Fighter Club has made a Skype group on Sunday, July 02, 2017 at 9:04 AM -5:00 GMT where we had invited Offical Factions to talk about the Heaven's Gate event.
The Skype group is still open and we are not refusing these same people to come forth with their constructive feedback.

The Archangels Fighter Club are not salty. Perhaps you are just reading it strangely. Please refrain from thinking that way.

Thank you for your important feedback. We are happy you commented.

Well, then bring them here and let them express their decisions. The community doesn't have insight into what you were doing in that skype chat group. All I see here is AFC does this, AFC does that. The AFC is, the AFC is not. There's no word from any of those people, representatives to be seen following up your first post in this thread. Thus, we cannot know and that is why questions are raised.

The AFC are well aware that participants know of this thread. They can come here to comment. We do not need to hold their hand in order to do so.
We also know that there is a discussion in 1iC leader chat that the AFC do not have access to. It is them discussing with themselves and us not being invited.

@Lythrilux why is it that you got this information in less than 24 hours but The Archangel's Fighter Club cannot for 2+ months?
Again, it smells fishy that all of a sudden you guys change your mind. Becasue you do not agree with the event, we suddenly hear "Oh actually it's not on there"

[The Archangels Fighter Club]

Hello.

Reiterating on the question asked earlier in your feedback thread :

If you really want something unique and cool, which I can understand, wouldn't that be funnier to ask someone to make a unique liner for AFC?

You could imagine making something really special and beautiful, with exactly what you want to support the lore of your faction and your needs gameplay wise. Wouldn't that be better than trying to use a model which has a lore somewhat incompatible with what you want to do, and better than trying to push again for that event thing that, well, excuse me to have to say it once more, makes little sense?

The Archangel's moto is: Go big or go home.
Dont you think it is better to involve people in a pvp event with the SRP line than to just do trade-runs in game and RP pretending to build the ship while also making a model that we are not able to do anyway? It's much easier for use to use an existing model and at least tweak some parts of it.

We will already be doing the whole boring trading grind for the RP, but we wish to add a pvp aspect into the SRP story line.


We hope you will find the event have more sense after taking sometime to read our explanation as to why it makes sense.

[Lythrilux]

@Lythrilux why is it that you got this information in less than 24 hours but The Archangel's Fighter Club cannot for 2+ months?
Again, it smells fishy that all of a sudden you guys change your mind. Becasue you do not agree with the event, we suddenly hear "Oh actually it's not on there"

It's not a sudden change of mind. Antonio said he knew you would proceed with the event, even though he didn't like the RP, so gave up trying to convince you otherwise. He put his foot down on the Arch though, and said it wouldn't be up for any changes during or after the event. The rest of Aoi also does not like the role the Arch plays in this event presently.

We have however never stated the blueprints are on the Arch. I even do recall a situation a year ago or so about the kinds of ships on the Arch, blueprints and all, and the Satsuma was not one of them.

I am still waiting for that Dev quote.

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[The Archangels Fighter Club]

@Lythrilux why is it that you got this information in less than 24 hours but The Archangel's Fighter Club cannot for 2+ months?
Again, it smells fishy that all of a sudden you guys change your mind. Becasue you do not agree with the event, we suddenly hear "Oh actually it's not on there"

It's not a sudden change of mind. Antonio said he knew you would proceed with the event, even though he didn't like the RP, so gave up trying to convince you otherwise. He put his foot down on the Arch though, and said it wouldn't be up for any changes during or after the event. The rest of Aoi also does not like the role the Arch plays in this event presently.

We have however never stated the blueprints are on the Arch. I even do recall a situation a year ago or so about the kinds of ships on the Arch, blueprints and all, and the Satsuma was not one of them.

I am still waiting for that Dev quote.

The Archangels Fighter Club are waiting for you dev quote.
The Club also is surprised Antonio did not express his feelings and decided to instead give a false impression, then you coming later to tell us what a he originally thought.
We feel that this kind of behavior is uncalled for when the club paid special interest to making sure initially that things would work out well.

Do you understand your group's mistake in how you have misguided this?

[PRJKTLRD]

Alright, thank you for the clarifications. However, I'd recommend you a different approach to criticism and feedback, rather than giving salty responses. I mean, that's how they appear to me, and I got no idea why.

My suggestion is to summon all the leaders here. Of course of official factions. Of the Order, Blood Dragons, Nomads, Wild (well he is already here) and AFC (here). Let them in continuity write their responses, do they agree with all the terms above, or they do not.

The picture will be more clearer then for everyone. You won't have to deal with stuff that you do not want. It happens because, you did write a lot but you didn't clarify things.

The Archangels Fighter Club has made a Skype group on Sunday, July 02, 2017 at 9:04 AM -5:00 GMT where we had invited Offical Factions to talk about the Heaven's Gate event.
The Skype group is still open and we are not refusing these same people to come forth with their constructive feedback.

The Archangels Fighter Club are not salty. Perhaps you are just reading it strangely. Please refrain from thinking that way.

Thank you for your important feedback. We are happy you commented.

Well, then bring them here and let them express their decisions. The community doesn't have insight into what you were doing in that skype chat group. All I see here is AFC does this, AFC does that. The AFC is, the AFC is not. There's no word from any of those people, representatives to be seen following up your first post in this thread. Thus, we cannot know and that is why questions are raised.

The AFC are well aware that participants know of this thread. They can come here to comment. We do not need to hold their hand in order to do so.
We also know that there is a discussion in 1iC leader chat that the AFC do not have access to. It is them discussing with themselves and us not being invited.

@Lythrilux why is it that you got this information in less than 24 hours but The Archangel's Fighter Club cannot for 2+ months?
Again, it smells fishy that all of a sudden you guys change your mind. Becasue you do not agree with the event, we suddenly hear "Oh actually it's not on there"

Read carefuly again. The community would need an insight of what is going on, and you should be able to forward those people to comment here and say if they agree or they do not.

I didn't ask you to let them know of this thread. Of course it is that, they will be aware of this thread if you talked about it. Just a clarification of all of them, do they agree or they do not so we can see it. It is important matter, especially for me because, I once wanted to have RM guns for Commune on 100% when our ID was coming out. They were provided by Wilde, and it was documented on forums, all of it however, the organization that held rights on them, [RM] and person behind it, Yber did not agree with this and thus, it didn't happened.

Right now, this thread and this whole story seems to be forced by you. And we also see that people from Aoi are disagreeing to how you want to do it. Did you even talk?

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<"From Darkness, lead me to Light. From Ignorance, to Truth. From Death, to Immortality.">

Jared Nomak ||  The rise of the Overlord || The Commune

[Lythrilux]

The Archangels Fighter Club are waiting for you dev quote.

Why do we need a Dev quote? We're the base owners here. Unless a Dev says otherwise, the facts right now say that the Satsuma blueprint is not on the Arch.

The Club also is surprised Antonio did not express his feelings and decided to instead give a false impression, then you coming later to tell us what a he originally thought.

Unless you can provide a quote to conflict what I've posted, I stand by my statement that Antonio would never have agreed to something like this. His opinion reflects that of the factions.

We feel that this kind of behavior is uncalled for when the club paid special interest to making sure initially that things would work out well.

Considering your constant rebuttal of everything I'm saying, it doesn't really seem like you care what we think at all. Crocodile tears.

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