Name: Allan Brahms Fawkes Affiliation: The Seraphim Topic: Consensus Multiplex What do you have to say?: Indeed, diplomacy should be sought before such a project is restarted. Besides finding who shall help construct it, however, I also find it important to add we should known how we would defend it, should it once again be attacked by forces with whom diplomacy has no effect. Do you have any location in mind, or are plans still centered on Kappa? Topic: Gammuian Civilization What do you have to say?: These... I don't even know how to call them. Individuals? Things? Creatures?
Well, they are certainly something I have next to zero experience with, and add to the fact that "diplomacy with machines" sounds like something out of a Friday movie, I don't know how much of use I can help or if my insights on the matter are even relevant. I will ask one of my team members opinion on this, however, and should the listed groups be short on man power I am certain he could provide some, even if unequal, level of assistance.
Name: Dankien Moebus Affiliation: The Seraphim Topic: Consensus Multiplex What do you have to say?: I am sad to hear the station was destroyed. I might participate to supply the new one if my path goes to the omicrons, just let me know what you need. Topic: Gammuian Civilization What do you have to say?: I think it is a good idea to keep on diplomacy. Hopefully there will be a mutual acceptance between us and them. However, I would suggest to be very careful with them, anyway I am pretty sure you will take all necessary precautions.
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Name: Dr. John Holliday Affiliation: Med Force Enterprises Topic: Consensus Multiplex What do you have to say?: I agree that the Multiplex is an essential installation for our work and should be re-constructed. We have enough contacts to where getting it built quicker should help. For more on this, see my next comments below.
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Topic: Gammuians What do you have to say?: I recently had a positive experience with some AI's so it's a start of developing understanding. If approached, just stop and use public chat. Let them know that you are engaging a translator and do the same in powering down your weapons. Then, just answer their questions which were fairly simple. I was even transferred two Zoner pilots who were in their holds. They can be peacefully dealt with if you use some patience.
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Name: Allan Brahms Fawkes Affiliation: The Seraphim Topic: Consensus Multiplex What do you have to say?: Earlier today I had a meeting with my team and discussed the points presented so far. I asked both Dr. Hayes and Hex about their inputs on the matter - their experience on the topic is far greater than mine - and they had insights to share that coalesced onto an opinion that I believe to be important to put forward here.
Regarding the Consensus Multiplex construction, we believe it to be important to do so only once the chance for more lives to be endangered is diminished. Ideally, we should starting diplomatic relationships before the actual construction - both to ascertain our safety, but to also give motive for said parties to care about the location.
As a whole, the construction of an outpost such as these represents a strategic asset. It can be used by and towards several goals, and it's these that must be made clear in order to speculation not run rampant. What we propose is to look for common conflicts between the four parties so far encountered - Corsairs, The Order, The Core and the Collective - and find ways to use our installation to work on their favor as well, not only on ours.
Onto the last point. We were talking about how the AI worked and moved together, and Hex came to a reasoning that I'll pass on to you.
Holding the argument that these entities work based on input and output, what have we done to sway their actions? It has been said that their desire to control the Kappa system is systematic - what if we became facilitators? Would they still see an installation as a problem should they have partial influence or access on it? Say, with telemetry or scientists working towards common analysis and information gathering about Kappa?
Taking into consideration what Dr. Holliday has showed us, it's clear that some degree of effort is in order to be spent so relationships can be improved before taking these steps.
I know that most of this may sound naive - specially considering my experience on the topic - but these are diplomatic alternatives to brute forcing a solution.
Name: Dankien Moebus Affiliation: The Seraphim Topic: Freeport 2 What do you have to say?: Well... after hearing all these rumors I needed to clarify the situation in Freeport 2. Did the zoners leave the station or did they surrender to pirates? As a matter of fact, pirates are now owning FP2 and another group of people is trying to take control of it. One pending question is: does this second group belongs to zoners? And should we help them?
So, I traveled to Bering to meet these people. I arrived in FP2 and met a group of Separatist and Coalition. They were around the freeport and the Separatist behaved as if they own it. After a quick talk the Separatist confirmed the zoners left the place before they arrived. Moreover, they stated that both the CoF and the government of Gran Canaria denounced the activity of the so called "zoner militia" and do not recognize them as zoners.
Of course I need to meet the zoner militia to have the complete version of the story, but at this point I was wondering if you had any information about the situation in Bering.
Name: Prof. Dr. Alessa Samson Affiliation: The Sol Project Topic: Consensus Multiplex What do you have to say?: There are indeed solid arguments. It will require diplomatic preparation and a solid logistic plan. We shouldn't forget that a huge part of the station which will be occupied by the Edgeworld University will be free for everyone. Nonetheless, I agree, we should demand a clear statement from the surrounding parties and do diplomatic agreements. After this has been finished we can review the situation and propably can figure out the tendencies about the political results of the construction plan. Topic: Gammuian Civilization What do you have to say?: I think we have a consensus with this. We will look into learning more about the Gammuian civilization and we will try to attempt more contacts. I also suggest and hope the Canaan Project will include their expertise in this. Topic: Freeport 2 What do you have to say?: I am, aswell as anybody else on the Antarctica are not aware of the current situation at Freeport 2. It is good that you already have moved towards the region. I am certain that your investigation will allow us to figure out the situation over there.
Name: Hagbard Celine Affiliation: TAZ Topic: consensus multiplex What do you have to say?: building a base two times at the same location and see it grow up to a firework makes eris singing. do it a 3rd time under the same circumstances
and she will dance. if ya dont have the clearance of all ya neighbours befoere ya build - boooom and fireworks. if ya cant convince them look for another location or rename kappa intodance floor of eris. Topic: Bering, ex FP2 What do you have to say?: well, the vast majority of the zoners had left the freeport befoere that so called jimmy whoever entered the scene. the others ran away as that "rat pack" took over control of this installation in a dead end with nothn more to offer than nothn, and a handful of zoners still life there, unharmed. i have been there every time from time to time cause they always have a need in our blessed amulets. the popes have never been harmed in bering, except a pirate who asks for a donation to feed his hungry children.
but at least: we are no zoners, we are the taz. zoners might see it completly different.
Name: James El Harady Affiliation: The Canaan Project Topic: Gammuian Civilization
What do you have to say?: So apparently our expertise is needed here, since Alessa threw in our project in her transmission.
We did have encounters with prvious instances of sentient artificial intelligence and had the chance to gather quite a bit of knowledge from that, as well as applying their way of engineering into our own research to an extent. I won't bore you with details, so here is what we know: The previous instance - the one we had the most contact with - seems to have gone offline with a few units roaming around the Omicrons without direction.
As of now there seem to be two new major instances. While we didn't have any mentionable encounters with the one known as the "Gammu AI", we did have quite the unfortunate first encounter with the one known as "The Collective". They seem hellbent on mechanizing everything living and defending Omicron Kappa from everyone they consider an intruder - in this case we were those intruders. This information is sourced from both our own research and interactions with an AI unit from the old PRIME collective that seeks to be integrated into the Collective.
In my oppinion staying out of Kappa would be an easy fix to the problem, but actively communicating with them might be an option. If anyone encounters them in the near future and is actually able to set up a meeting we will gladly attend. The same counts for us of course. We are still in the process of researching them, but if there is a chance for negotiation we will let you guys know.
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Topic: Gammmuians.
Mr. El Harady, it was the group known as "The Gammuians" that attacked Med Force One in Omega 49. I believe they went by Aeon C'bal or something to that effect. I later received a transmission stating that I am a target of interest. I can only guess their intentions but I'm thinking that they want me as a subject of study. This wouldn't be the first time that something like this has happened, the first time with some Nomads. The records on that one remain sealed to this day but my study of them is ongoing.
That said, I have a Med Force ship in the Omicrons. Commander Alicia Cook commands it and she's had some experience with AI's. I'll be assigning her crew to study. I do plan on meeting the collective myself, especially if giving some of myself will save many.
Topic: Cayman
I have contacted the Coalition regarding Manatum base. I am awaiting official word from them but the initial response I received was positive. It would be a good base for us. Naturally protected by lava rocks to where large ships could not get close enough to be a threat yet not so far off the path that it is totally isolated. I will keep you all posted.
Name: Allan Brahms Fawkes Affiliation: The Seraphim Topic: Bering Situation: UN Contact What do you have to say?: Guten Tag.
This morning something unexpected happen whilst reaching Munich with a shipment of supplies - I was requested, not forced in any way, to trade words with an Unioner Vessel identified as UN|KKS-Saarstahl regarding the Bering System and Zoner Militia situation. I will add the full log in the end of this record.
Saarstahl, or "L" as identified, stated that the situation has begun to turn even more sour after Militants brought capital ships to the area. The reason being, it seems, that they wanted to negotiate Freeport 2 being turned over to them once again, but said vessels ended up justifying everyone's intentions not to listen.
Either way, I was asked what was our stance on the situation and kept it rather open. I know that most - if not all - of us look down on the direction things have taken over there, but made it clear that we did not wish to see another occurrence where many civilians would lose their lives meaninglessly.
After that, I was asked if the Seraphim could evacuate willingly Zoners from the area if requested. My answer was once again categorical. I stated that if said individuals wanted to leave and we were reassured not to be harmed on the process, yes. "L" wasn't completely sure if other groups would not act against it, but I made it evident that such a thing would be necessary - having seen what Unioners are capable of I don't wish to jeopardize the safety of anyone shifting targets to a lesser defensive vessel.
Either way, it is important that we reach an opinion of this soon. If their intentions are as clear as they sound, we may be requested action not too long from now. See the log for additional information.
[08.06.2018 11:31:13] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Oh, perfect. I searched for one of you.
[08.06.2018 11:31:24] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: H: "We got a signal."
[08.06.2018 11:31:32] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Hm? Cut engines."
[08.06.2018 11:31:38] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: I would appreciate it if you stay.
[08.06.2018 11:31:46] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Uh, Guten Tag."
[08.06.2018 11:32:11] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Mahlzeit, I am ordered to search for Seraphim Captains.
[08.06.2018 11:32:16] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Lucky me.
[08.06.2018 11:32:31] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: I would have a few questions.
[08.06.2018 11:32:43] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Oh? I hope we to be half as lucky then."
[08.06.2018 11:32:49] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Are the Serpahims aware of the situation in Bering ?
[08.06.2018 11:33:32] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Just a moment, let me atend to this in a proper channel."
[08.06.2018 11:34:09] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: Brahms: "Well, it is a pleasure. The name is Allan Brahms, could I at least know who I am talking to?"
[08.06.2018 11:35:04] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: For now just " L ", my name isn't important. I'm here in the name of "Miss Dross".
[08.06.2018 11:35:31] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Member of the Triumvirate of the Reichsarbeitergesellschaft der Alster Union.
[08.06.2018 11:35:45] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I see... Well, 'L' will do then."
[08.06.2018 11:35:49] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Bering..."
[08.06.2018 11:36:06] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "We have heard about it - several things, from several diferent channels, to be honest."
[08.06.2018 11:36:18] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: What did you heard about it ?
[08.06.2018 11:36:18] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I took the risk of visiting the station once, but to be honest-
[08.06.2018 11:36:39] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: -it's has not been on our priority list."
[08.06.2018 11:36:50] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Alright. Let me patch you in.
[08.06.2018 11:37:36] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Right now, Freeport 2 is under Pirate control, since the Zoners abandoned it.
[08.06.2018 11:38:19] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: We face the tries of a "Zoner Militant" group that want's to negotiate, that the Freeport is handed back to the Zoners.
[08.06.2018 11:39:07] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Until now we didn't got harmed by that exactly group, but from other Zoner Militants. Even Civilians got almost killed.
[08.06.2018 11:39:41] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Miss Dross and the other Members of the Triumvirate are stuck in a point.
[08.06.2018 11:40:20] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Cause these Militants brought "Warships", Destroyer of the "Q-Ship class" to be exactly, to negotiate.
[08.06.2018 11:40:31] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: What is a threat to the peace in Bering.
[08.06.2018 11:40:56] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Yet the Unioners still have to decide if we wipe them out or let them alive.
[08.06.2018 11:41:37] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: That is why I am here to search for opinions and how other, larger, Zoner groups stand towards these Militants.
[08.06.2018 11:42:08] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Normally we don't see Zoners as a threat, but things can change.
[08.06.2018 11:42:38] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Hm."
[08.06.2018 11:42:43] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: But it isn't in our interest to force to another genocide like Freeport 11.
[08.06.2018 11:43:01] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: But if we have to, well. We have our ways.
[08.06.2018 11:43:47] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "L, I will be honest with you, since you did me the favor of doing the same."
[08.06.2018 11:44:17] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Sure.
[08.06.2018 11:44:27] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I'm but a man. I wasn't born on the Omicrons, I was born on Rheinland."
[08.06.2018 11:44:51] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Well I was born in Baffin *laughs*.
[08.06.2018 11:45:21] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "The reason I work with The Seraphim is in part not distant than some of the called 'unlawful' groups around here operate."
[08.06.2018 11:45:29] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "So I cannot talk for the whole."
[08.06.2018 11:45:46] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "What I can tell you is that The Consensus has heard a lot about Bering, and we've kept our distance."
[08.06.2018 11:45:53] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Sure.
[08.06.2018 11:46:02] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "None of us is happy with the turn the situation took."
[08.06.2018 11:46:20] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I was never mistreated there, and several of my colleagues weren't either."
[08.06.2018 11:46:30] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Some of which had people on the freeport when it was abandoned."
[08.06.2018 11:46:52] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "So when a group, calling itself militia, turned to arms, no one particularly spoke for them."
[08.06.2018 11:47:17] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Yet, none of us is happy with the other side of the situation either."
[08.06.2018 11:47:41] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "No one wishes - and this is also coming from a Rheinlander - another Alster situation."
[08.06.2018 11:47:52] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Alright.
[08.06.2018 11:48:01] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: We guessed that.
[08.06.2018 11:48:46] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "May I ask you regarding that matter specifically?"
[08.06.2018 11:48:53] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Would the Seraphims, if contacted, evacuate every willing Zoner from that Carrier?
[08.06.2018 11:49:36] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "If this request came from anyone - willingly - yes, that is more than reasonable."
[08.06.2018 11:49:41] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: If we have to purge these Militants, we don't want to hurt any other free Zoner.
[08.06.2018 11:50:25] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: We also don't take the actions of these Militants as statement of all Zoners, no worries.
[08.06.2018 11:51:04] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Our worries wouldn't fall on the militants over the civilians, Herr 'L'."
[08.06.2018 11:51:14] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: The whole point that turned the situation this way, was the mistake of the Militants, by brining in warships.
[08.06.2018 11:52:06] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: I mean, I was a Zoner once too. And bringing warships to negotiate with someone seems unwise.
[08.06.2018 11:52:30] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I tend to agree, but I don't know what prompted said groups to act that way."
[08.06.2018 11:53:26] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Yeah, we only want that you and other groups understand what us.
[08.06.2018 11:54:17] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Most of the consensus tend to themselves. TAZ, the Sol Project, Canaan, it will be rare to see them operating in House."
[08.06.2018 11:54:27] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "The Seraphim are probably the most active in that regard because of our intentions."
[08.06.2018 11:54:33] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Alright, I will tell Frau Dross, that she can contact the Seraphims to evacuate the Carrier if needed.
[08.06.2018 11:54:43] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "All I'll reiterate is that we wish less civilians were harmed on the process of your politics."
[08.06.2018 11:55:13] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "And this comes from someone who... faced losses during the Alster situation."
[08.06.2018 11:55:34] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: But I know I don't have to mention it, but well. Don't bring any sort of Capital Ship into Bering.
[08.06.2018 11:56:18] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Well, that doesn't have to be a concern."
[08.06.2018 11:56:24] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: We respect the work of the Seraphim, even if we know we give you that work... .
[08.06.2018 11:56:57] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: You are free to inform your HC about this chat.
[08.06.2018 11:57:19] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: And also if these Militants ask for help, please stay out of it.
[08.06.2018 11:57:25] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Just to make this clear."
[08.06.2018 11:58:00] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "We will help evacuate any Zoner wishing to leave, it is not our intent to put more problems on this basket..."
[08.06.2018 11:58:19] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "... however we would appreciate if your group resorted to less inhuman means of warfare."
[08.06.2018 11:59:03] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Noted, you will not be harmed by any Reichsarbeiter. And that is why we search for opinions, ideas.
[08.06.2018 11:59:50] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I will report this to the others. What about the other groups however."
[08.06.2018 12:00:22] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Can we expect to be treated fairly by the others in the area?"
[08.06.2018 12:01:00] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: I bet Harmony and the other Seperatist, will not harm you. They wouldn't do such things.
[08.06.2018 12:01:22] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "It would be better for something else than a bet."
[08.06.2018 12:01:39] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: They are trying to negotiate with these Militants too in a more open way. But Bering is one of our homes, and well if they..
[08.06.2018 12:01:57] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Would have come without warships...it would have not lead to this.
[08.06.2018 12:02:07] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "I just want to be clear - if we were to send a liner into Bering to evacuate civilians, it wouldn't be on our interest to-
[08.06.2018 12:02:14] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Alright.
[08.06.2018 12:02:17] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: -see a target painted on our hull."
[08.06.2018 12:03:03] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: You will be under protection of the Reichsarbeiter, if you enter Bering, as long as it isn't in a warship.
[08.06.2018 12:03:29] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: And Frau Dross, will inform the Seperatist and I know they will protect you too.
[08.06.2018 12:03:44] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Hm. I will record that and tell the others that. Please, keep me informed of any changes."
[08.06.2018 12:03:57] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "It should not be hard to reach me on the Neural Net."
[08.06.2018 12:04:01] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Sure.
[08.06.2018 12:04:35] UN|KKS-Saarstahl: L: Well good day to you, Seraphim.
[08.06.2018 12:04:43] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "If that was all. For you as well."
[08.06.2018 12:04:59] >Z|S<Allan.Brahms: B: "Hex, back to Munich. It's time to call this one over."