Now the previous post was locked because people came in spamming and replying out of topic and being toxic etc plus all who asked to join was from the opposing group , and the thread got locked.
So let me understand what is going on here , a post will be locked because it is "attacked" by the people who dissagree with that? Interesting , how about the admins do something about that instead of violating my rights in the forum. Let's see what happens this time . By the way since i am not violating any forum rules by posting this 100% harmless topic i will keep opening it again and again if it keeps being locked without reason. Calling for a gathering for a purpose like defending POBs should not be of any problem , instead it is creating possible activity , instead i say again because the well known trouble makers attack the thread , it ends locked. So at the end maybe these people are actually protected and supported by the administration or somehow they pull strings ? Forgive me if i am wrong on that but this is what it looks to my eyes , not just know but so many many many times in the past with actions like that ...I hope administration prove me wrong , in which case i will take my words back immediately...
Let's be serious now.
Here is the meeting point for those who want to form the group we talked about . If not interested then no need to post here , i expect you to respect that , i also expect admins to take care and remove people who will just troll or be off topic here.
A Defence team to go against the group that is attacking POBs all around .
If no movement happen then noone should cry about POB getting destroyed by the same people again and again ..
Since ships are needed all around , credits are needed so a group can be created that will help the defenders make money . That money making group will be self sufficient with traders , miners , escorts . No matter the ship used all profit made will be equally shared among the members of the money making group.
A criticall mass is needed estimated to 10x players at least moving together all times.When the numbers are high enough a discord link will be arranged to coordinate.(The aim is to have more as an attacking force as soon as posible)
Some thoughts about basic rules (mostly suggestions) .
the group of defenders will be addressed as DG in the following lines since an acronym is short and saves space , the attackers group will be AG
0.0#No leader exists the DG might have coordinators but no leaders. System organization will be anarchy , no leader, all will decide together what will be done equally , this demands mature responsible persons with self discipline.The only case one(or more) will have athority to deside to expel a member is if someone or more are infiltrators meaning to cause troubles to the functionality of the DG , who will be that person (or group pf persons) will be determined by the trusted members that have prooved their integrity.
1# Main purpose of DG team will be to defend registered bases in house systems.
1.1#Out of house systems DG will defend POBs that get attacked by AG .
1.2#POBs under attack will be defended by DG both having lawfull and unlawfull IFF
2#Main target is the well known group (AG) that attacks POBs with little or very poor RP.
2.1#Main target is that group (AG) in general.
2.2#Conditions and mentalities like fair and balanced numbers of DG vs AG are meaningless and unacceptable, DG methods are based on exceeding enemy numbers in all possible ways making it UNFAIR for the enemy to fight , this is DG main tactic.
STAND AND FIGHT
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You can not stand and fight at a broken system. Advocate for a system change, do not try to fight fire with fire.
Incase you did not see, you are being mocked to death and even if i despise it your attitude is wrong, I know how your hard work is getting crushed and it is sad to see but these attacks just made something clear: Some things are broken within current rules/inrp legislations.
PoBs are a great thing but you need a really big playerbase to defend it, be coordinated and such. You can not do that with this playerbase, fighting fire with fire will only make you get mocked to death where your ideas wont considered by anyone.
I recommend you to get over it and if it's not fun for you, leave the PoB stuff or build it in Liberty where you will have 100 LNS ready for your disposal at anytime. Dont try to fight with them, because they have the edge, by a big margin. You will lose, because system is broken, or at least it is rigged.
Quote:[...]all who asked to join was from the opposing group[...]
There is no opposite group. People are all playing in the same place and many people actually share membership in so-called opposite factions without sticking to the one side.
Quote:[...]A Defence team to go against the group that is attacking POBs all around[...]
You were told that your defence team is ooRP project, built on tears and hate. Maybe you should think about making it as survived people from all the destroyed by evil Hessians and Enclave POBs that gathered together to protect the ones that remained, don't you think so?
Quote:0.0#No leader exists the DG might have coordinators but no leaders. System organization will be anarchy , no leader, all will decide together what will be done equally , this demands mature responsible persons with self discipline.The only case one(or more) will have athority to deside to expel a member is if someone or more are infiltrators meaning to cause troubles to the functionality of the DG , who will be that person (or group pf persons) will be determined by the trusted members that have prooved their integrity.
So, this group you are going to make is literally built on ooRP hate and tears, having no leadership (anarchy is not working in real-world, btw), 'balancing' things that is impossible be balanced.
Quote:1.2#POBs under attack will be defended by DG both having lawfull and unlawfull IFF
Most of the IDs have a line like this: "Cannot ally with any lawfuls" and mirrored version for lawful that is telling they cannot ally with unlawful. Defending of the POB is already dirty, don't make it even dirtier by ooRP actions like this.
Quote:2.2#Conditions and mentalities like fair and balanced numbers of DG vs AG are meaningless and unacceptable, DG methods are based on exceeding enemy numbers in all possible ways making it UNFAIR for the enemy to fight , this is DG main tactic.
Just yikes. You are literally damaging the health of the Discovery Freelancer community by providing toxic gameplay like overganking opponents, slowly moving yourself to the shitton of sanctions for such behaviour.
(06-27-2020, 10:13 PM)sajuuk111 Wrote: You can not stand and fight at a broken system. Advocate for a system change, do not try to fight fire with fire.
Incase you did not see, you are being mocked to death and even if i despise it your attitude is wrong, I know how your hard work is getting crushed and it is sad to see but these attacks just made something clear: Some things are broken within current rules/inrp legislations.
PoBs are a great thing but you need a really big playerbase to defend it, be coordinated and such. You can not do that with this playerbase, fighting fire with fire will only make you get mocked to death where your ideas wont considered by anyone.
I recommend you to get over it and if it's not fun for you, leave the PoB stuff or build it in Liberty where you will have 100 LNS ready for your disposal at anytime. Dont try to fight with them, because they have the edge, by a big margin. You will lose, because system is broken, or at least it is rigged.
Disclaimer: I have both helped and attacked PoBs.
Well said. You have my bomber. I suppose from here on in I'll log, but as said here, I've been torn on even bothering. I'm hopeful of changes that will make the situation better in general, much needed changes to the ROE's and death penalties for ships involved.
But you should be able to do some basic organization oorply. Every situation might call for different circumstances, different ships/ID's to be used. They say get out an pvp, they say 'but its an RP server'. Until any POB changes go through, this doesn't seem like a bad idea.
In regards to base sieges, I will continue to suggest new means to make defense easier, and I'll drop this in the right thread after this;
Repair Ships could be set to repair POB's, like applying nanobots in a plasma form by way of turrets so anyone can just make a FL repair ship and help make on the spot repairs to bases.
I repeat here is only for those who want to join the group and don't belong to the attackers group ... don't post anything out of topic other than that.
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(06-27-2020, 10:13 PM)sajuuk111 Wrote: You can not stand and fight at a broken system. Advocate for a system change, do not try to fight fire with fire.
Incase you did not see, you are being mocked to death and even if i despise it your attitude is wrong, I know how your hard work is getting crushed and it is sad to see but these attacks just made something clear: Some things are broken within current rules/inrp legislations.
PoBs are a great thing but you need a really big playerbase to defend it, be coordinated and such. You can not do that with this playerbase, fighting fire with fire will only make you get mocked to death where your ideas wont considered by anyone.
I recommend you to get over it and if it's not fun for you, leave the PoB stuff or build it in Liberty where you will have 100 LNS ready for your disposal at anytime. Dont try to fight with them, because they have the edge, by a big margin. You will lose, because system is broken, or at least it is rigged.
Disclaimer: I have both helped and attacked PoBs.
Well said. You have my bomber. I suppose from here on in I'll log, but as said here, I've been torn on even bothering. I'm hopeful of changes that will make the situation better in general, much needed changes to the ROE's and death penalties for ships involved.
But you should be able to do some basic organization oorply. Every situation might call for different circumstances, different ships/ID's to be used. They say get out an pvp, they say 'but its an RP server'. Until any POB changes go through, this doesn't seem like a bad idea.
In regards to base sieges, I will continue to suggest new means to make defense easier, and I'll drop this in the right thread after this;
Repair Ships could be set to repair POB's, like applying nanobots in a plasma form by way of turrets so anyone can just make a FL repair ship and help make on the spot repairs to bases.
Only interest to join the group all the rest is out of topic , we will discuss these things in future time please . I can't filter the join requests if i have to spot a couple of words in a page of out of topic speech ...
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