As Cabal said in a post: "What disco needs is 2 big factions fighting each other".
I kinda agree with that or a bit of it, smaller factions could pick a side,
build up a coalition etc.
Yea I agree with what Marauder is saying. The state of RP here is getting pretty bad, and needs to be fixed.I was pretty supreded when I came up on cambrdidge yesterday and saw ovidius' Bretnonian Cruiser was gone, and there sat a Rheinland one.
I also agree with Olsav here, It would such if i was allowed to fly bloodhounds and CSVs only cause the Helghast Are Junkers. But i also pride my clan with following ship limitations in Rp very well. You want a light fighter?Heres your scimitar, oh the slipstream is better you say? Too bad! Wanna replace your talarca with an Albatross firgate? nope, your loss. This si mostly cause the junker salavge anything they can get their hands on. If i wanted to I could basicly have anyship and say that the junkers salvaged it but I wont. Because that would be a bit extream.
EDIT; @Stingray, The Helghast have many alliances, and when we get big enough..... The lawfuls will all suffer, just you wait, a big war is coming I can feel it.
This is not a flame post, its my opinions and my reasons as to why I made my shiplist the way it is.
Well when I said Kusari and Bretonia ships are off-limits I had meant to also make the Liberty ones as well, but forgot to.. Rheinland ships are, because the Sigma-13 debris field of half-destroyed Rheinland capships, as well as Zoner's good relations with Junkers. Other house ships require permission and usually a few RP posts or a thread about how they obtained the ship, OR starting the ship's life (check Mayday in Tau-31 thread for example with my Kusari Destroyer, also in Ghosts of the Past).
Order ships are allowed due to good relations with them, as well as a common enemy.
Outcast and Corsair ships are allowed because they both have home systems connected to Theta, and our good relations with both (But some tension is rising between the Zoners and Corsairs, so its possible it will have escalated enough by the next version release, that they won't be allowed anymore.
Bounty Hunter ships are obviously allowed due to Zoners almost-alliance with them.
And again, as MANY people have said. AW are not completely Zoners, nor is Bs| completely Order. We will use mainly Zoner ships of course, but not ONLY zoner ships.
Also, as people have said, a player faction cannot be bound completely to the NPC faction. (Korrd said this in regards to areas the NPC faction is in when Wolf complained about Wraiths in Omega-5.)
Therefor, players can have weapons not sold by their NPC alignment. (Wraiths use some Corsair weaponry, they have to to be able to even fight other ships, let alone military MkII fighters and weapons.)
The Zoners are not completely bound as a House is. Zoners have more freedom with their total neutrality. They can manage to get many different ships, and equipment. Houses must use their own ships they construct. Pirates and Junkers will not sell them ships, as they are lawfuls.
AW are mercenaries, who deal with everyone. They buy ships from whoever they want, with the exclusion of houses due to the fact they do not sell their ships to others unlike the pirates.
This annoys me. Though I see where you're coming from marauder, you sully SF and victimise one of our members, then hide behind your "my opinions - don't flame me" and I won't stand for it. It has already been explained that the Corsair ship is nothing to do with SF, though you also lambaste us for having one character with one ship from our long-term close allies. This past week I've fought Corsairs in Rhineland ships, could you explain that to me? How about you wail about them instead of dragging your allies' names through the dirt.
It's not unheard of for a military to be using equipment supplied by allies. Take the Israeli military for example, almost exclusively outfitted with American technology. RM is equally welcome to Bretonian armament, only you restrict it yourselves, so don't tell us we don't RP just because our faction requirements are slightly different. We still keep it as close to "realistic" as it can be in Discovery story terms.
Another point, though you haven't mentioned it, is although I respect and commend you for sticking to Rhineland guns only, that is not feasible for the majority of other factions in the game if they are to play on level terms with everybody else. Weapon choice is one thing I believe should be left as diverse as possible if we're already restricting ship types. If you put your own members at too much of a disadvantage they will get obliterated, annoyed and eventually leave. Simply holding proper ship restrictions like most all factions already do seems to work pretty well.
Anyways, I agree with your points on terrorists and pirates. I just think this post could've been a little more discrete and a little less SF lampooning :0P
The one thing out of all this begining to sound a bit odd ... Bs| is a Starwars faction ?
What the hell are you doing here then ?
This is a Freelancer Mod guys, Your ship choice should not be reflected on what you do
on your own clan site. Pretty poor RP ... Makes a mockery of everyone elses efforts don't
you think ?
They are Starwars ships, so we can have them. Not much respect there ...
Hoodlum
Some say he is a proud member of: "The most paranoid group of people in the Community."
Hoodlum, you don't really know what your talking about..
For one, Wolfpack's character's history is that he came from another galaxy (the star wars one) on behalf of the empire to combat the nomads. They lost their empire ships, and instead bought ones in Sirius. They continue to fight the Nomads, the forces the empire is afraid of (hence why they are order.)
This is not making a mockery of anyone's ANYTHING. You, Hoodlum, are making a mockery of them. If they want to use Star Wars ships, let them. You want to bash AW because when we were still in WA we were Norse? Bs| uses ORDER ships. Yes, they want to, and I think sometimes DO, use Star Wars ships. The BHG aren't the only ones with those ships. The Zoner Juggernaut is from Star Wars. As is the Corsair Dreadnaught. I think the Outcast Dread is as well. Stop the freaking flaming Hoodlum, your acting as bad as you claim they are.
Congratulations, You've just made this thread into a flaming one! Pat yourself on the back. Enough with the damn name calling and mud slinging please! :angry2:
I agree with Maruader. I am sick to death of explaining that i'm a Phantom and I can kill you when and if I feel like it. RP is severely lacking at the moment. Maybe a little more stricter rules among factions? Nah, you can't make it too strict. Maybe, just maybe people can read the message dumps to keep up to date on things...and even the Faction status page! When you f1 to another char...you are that char not the one you just left, that's a big problem I see. And it would be nice to see appropriate ships as well.
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Yes, they want to, and I think sometimes DO, use Star Wars ships. The BHG aren't the only ones with those ships. The Zoner Juggernaut is from Star Wars. As is the Corsair Dreadnaught. I think the Outcast Dread is as well. Stop the freaking flaming Hoodlum, your acting as bad as you claim they are.
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What about the Colonial Viper. I see many of those which belong to Bs| members....
And then theres that Battlestar....why have they got 1 of those?
I also doubt the Empire would want to buy the outdated and outclassed designs of their rivals, The rebelion. Mabey they should only be allowed the ships of the Republic, Empire and Order (though confederacy was evil too).
It seems we all have opinions about what is and what isnt allowed.
I still think that the Ships should be respected as the property of the faction that sells it, not what it looks like.
Congratulations. You just turned my "good day" in to a really bad one. You got on the *WRONG* Side of me now, bud.
1) Our clan history states that Nomads attacked the Empire in *OUR* Space. our Emperor sent a fleet to destroy this threat. Thanks to Sam, my character's history is a little different, but *I* come from Sirius. I was taken back to the Emperor after the initial confrontation and sent back to take command of the Imperial Fleet that was still here.
That fleet was subsequently destroyed in a Nomad ambush. Since then, what was left of the fleet slowly reconstructed our ships using old plans and Sirius technology, thanks to our friends in the order.
2) You wnat to flame my clan, you better flame me first. Met and I spent *HOURS* writing up that role play story to make it fit without making it seem so damn cheesy. You want to talk about respect, you better learn it yourself.
Respect is a two way street, hoodlum. It always has been. You just lost my respect for this.
To everyone else: Role Play is Role Play. As Korrd and Dab have told me, you cannot restrict role play 100% to the faction alignment in this game. I'm TRUELY OLD SCHOOL Role play, meaning i played crap like Dungeons and Dragons in the 1980's. That's Old School Role Play, and i doubt any of you were even out of diapers back then. You want to play this card on the rest of us.. those of us who have spent so many countless hours rebuilding our fleets, our role plays after the wipe, expect to be flamed. Congratulations.
Thanks. You just turned what was a good day into a pretty lousy one. Hope you're happy.
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