Manta Balance

[Grimly]

Who already killed Esther Carson ?

That mean "no and learn how to fly", the outcasts have the same problem you have

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Taking what's yours since 816 A.S.

[Montezuma/Kukulcan]

(only it seems Montezuma likes o kill me in his cruiser :S)

I just noticed this, didnt i suggest that i fight you in my bomber instead and keep the other corsairs from engaging. Twice. Even though i only killed you in my cruiser once or twice. Still you are in my opinion the best hunter i have killed. ;)

Also, i think that making it equel in power to the Titan or the Nepthys, but keep the armour less and agility more, otherwise it will just not be interesting to fly against someone that might as well be in the same ship. Just my thoughts

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[gekerd]

Thanks:)

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[farmerman]

I thought I'd weigh in since I finally saw a decent amount of Manta activity this weekend - with and against.

For numbers, does it actually turn faster up/down than left/right? Because it definitely feels that way. In any case, one major issue with the Manta seems to be when it does turn left/right. In the fight the other day, whenever the BHG tried that, there was a nearly unmissable target, whereas the other way it wouldn't have that issue.

Also, how does strafe speed compare, in actual numbers?

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[looqas]

I see by reading the changelog of beta 5 that Manta speed got tweaked. It does not say anything else.

I haven't simply had time to test it out and unless it's something overly dramatic I doubt I could spot the difference anyway.

So, any changes in Manta balance by the latest change?

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Flying under radar.

[Zig]

Yes, the Manta is, in its current condition, a fairly borked and not particularly competitive very heavy fighter. Doesn't prevent me from flying one on Adam Crichton, of course, but it does need to be brought in line with the ships it faces and competes with. Tic's suggestions seem justified and well thought-out.

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Luls:

Role-play is not the be all and end all.

[gekerd]

Darn you killed me in it (You would be a bad pilot if you didn't) Stupid Barghest:P

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[Zig]

*polite cough*

Ahem. The Manta's balance issues really, really need to be addressed. Yes, there's a lot of hooplah being made around the Paladin, but give the Manta some lovin', too.

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Luls:

Role-play is not the be all and end all.

[hribek]

The Manta is great for 1vs1 fights. Or for downing bombers. Or for fighting other stuff, I'm flying it, and seems to be fine. Then again, until one of us actually tests it properly, we have nothing to base the claims on, do we?

Test reports, please.

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[Zig]

The Manta is great for 1vs1 fights. Or for downing bombers. Or for fighting other stuff, I'm flying it, and seems to be fine. Then again, until one of us actually tests it properly, we have nothing to base the claims on, do we?

Test reports, please.

No, Hribek, the Manta is not great for 1v1 fights, or for downing bombers, or even for fighting other stuff. You and I can accomplish these things regardless because we're good pilots; that doesn't in any way alter the simple fact that the Manta is currently a decidedly inferior fighter when compared to those it most frequently faces. Tic did a more detailed examination of the Manta's shortcomings in the title post.

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Luls:

Role-play is not the be all and end all.