Incindre, you're only fooling yourself if you think I didn't understand you perfectly. Just because you didn't get a satisfactory response doesn't mean I have the reading comprehension of most other Americans.
Also, I have a tendency to think things over about four times before I post them.
And fer both of you...
It appears that you say you've flown bombers for a while, and then it seems you all turn around and act like you can't fly them and it's something new...
I have nothing at all against police using bombers.
It's not the greatest roleplay, but in game mechanics you have to.
I accept that, as I've played that sort of lawful before.
You're still militarising, and moving into Dublin, though.
Otherwise there would have been no posts on this subject whatsoever.
I'm going to suggest that perhaps Dublin, or at least the Arranmore debris field, should get molly bomber patrols. And higher yield mines. Graves field could use BAF elites, as well as the BAF controlled sector around the gate.
I'm with Sprolf on the idea that Dublin is supposedly one of the darkest meatgrinders of the game as far as military entrenchment.
BAF control the gate, Mollies control the other side of the system, and neither is making any grounds on the other because it is meant to be, quite plainly, a fortress system, either side so deeply entrenched in their defensive wars that neither side has made any advancement in the last 80 years.
Alternatively, I'm going to argue that the exact location of Arranmore base can't be unknown to BAF observers, and from them to nearly everyone, for a couple of reasons.
1: because tradeships, even if they're primarily smugglers, have been docking on the base for the last 80 years, and nearly everyone can be bought.
2: Because the BAF is only prevented from bombarding Arranmore to dust by the minefield (see earlier suggestion about tossing in molly bomber patrols to the minefield)
3: because of the existence of telescopes, and the relative rarity of large objects in space. If they know what region to look in, all of the large enough rocks can be found, and that's with modern telescopy. I'll assume its much easier to do it in the future.
On that coin, I want to point out that Dublin is the original, historical, and most dangerous of Bretonia's warzones. That the police would avoid the war with Kusari, which is primarily a war of maneuver, and jump out of the BAF's trench to run screaming into the Mollie's machine guns...Well, should I remind the BPA why there's never been any BPA in Dublin? It may be a hive of pirates and smugglers, but its also a bloody warzone, one that's been continually entrenched for the last 80 years. Sounds like just the place to stop a pirate, doesn't it?
Of course, I don't feel space is a place for police at all, and would like to see the BPA IFF replaced with "Bretonian"
No, the point was that it wasn't something new. We can't be said to be militarising if we're getting no better armed than we were before.
"-act like you can't fly them and it's something new"
Where are you getting this from? If you mean the RP request to the BAF, then it's due to needing more bombers. Simple as.
Other than the bombers (which are not a factor) what gives you the idea that the BPA are indeed militarising?
As for Dublin? Can I ask you look at your own faction before yelling about sticking to vanilla? As I mentioned previously, there was a time when the Mollys and Bretonia were at peace. Moving past vanilla much?
"I have nothing at all against police using bombers.
It's not the greatest roleplay, but in game mechanics you have to."
Thanks for that one. I guess the AFO and usually sticking to LF/HF mean little when the average Joe Bretonian pirate owns a gunboat eh?
There is a not-so subtle difference between a peace treaty and moving a police force into the most dangerous system in Bretonia that even the Armed Forces were unable to subjugate during times of peace, let alone when the house is threatening to collapse.
Innnn any case, this is all pointless as we've all really said our piece. As long as we just keep the idea of everyone having a good time in mind, it'll all go smoothly. Just don't assume that you'll be making any great headway in Dublin, it sounds like Bretonia is actually downgrading their forces in the system (Less Army, more Police)
' Wrote:As long as we just keep the idea of everyone having a good time in mind, it'll all go smoothly.
Words I love to hear in respect to discovery:D
' Wrote:Just don't assume that you'll be making any great headway in Dublin, it sounds like Bretonia is actually downgrading their forces in the system (Less Army, more Police)
I'll be looking into that. Keep posted for further info. I've not been on server in a while, due to drowning in my university coursework, and I'll be seeing what's going on.
As an end note, I've always liked the molly players, had good relations with 'em, and I'd hate this to end that. So give me a wee while to see what's going on.
You cannot simply lock a thread that you dislike because it states how some people have issues with your roleplay.
You just gave yourself a poor image in a good few folks eyes with that.
Well a solution may be to take it as it is in real life. Military force takes care of places that the police force is not responsible of. So a regional limitation and jurisdiction may work. Governmental agencies shall be RP'ed in a governmental point of view to have them fitting their roles, or they will start merging with others eventually.
Eh, just prove to me why this makes sense - using only canon material and a reasonably well-constructed argument as to why the BPA has resources to spend on Dublin they've never had before (and this being during the darkest hours of a war!) - and I'll concede the point.
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