Liberty being ultra-modern capitalist society,
Bretonia being Victorian
Rheinland being steampunk-atomic era
And...
Kusari as Imperial Japan, where males were ALL and did ALL, oppressing women into submission. It's been shown that women can be as fiery and determined as men, which would lead to rebellion.
The issue of piracy is apparently the debate here. I'll go from a neutral standpoint.
Why they SHOULD be able to pirate:
You need funding and supplies. Period.
Attacking your enemies' economy is a good strategy.
Shows assertiveness over men.
Why they SHOULD NOT be able to pirate:
They are not a really poor or needy faction, as they get a lot of supplies from their allies.
They are more a revolutionary than criminal group.
<strike>Women belong in the kitchen</strike>
A group of fighters and bombers and occasional gunboat is likely more able to maintain it's fleet without piracy, and more just destroying convoys for supplies, which is against server limitations.
There are several sides to this issue, and I say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." And it is certainly not broken. There is no one reason that screams, "THEY CANNOT PIRATE" and until that reason is found, I don't think it will change.
You can't troll a troll, and you trolled since you came in here.
Problem is, you trolled badly and got hit with evidence.
But I've noticed something.. Rather than discuss the points I raised, or discuss the original topic in any way, all you've done is personally attack me since.. I believe this is a feedback thread, and such should be used to discuss the player factions. Would you care to comment to any of the things I said in my post other than "Dab is a troll!:ohmy:"
Quote:You can't troll a troll, and you trolled since you came in here.
In other words:
[color=#FF0000]NO U
Quote:Problem is, you trolled badly and got hit with evidence.
Care to tell me which bases those rumours are on then? Like what you refused to tell Unselie when questioned? Or are you going to just give me a bunch of (ids) numbers?
Also;
Care to also review your evidence yourself, perhaps from a perspective not frought by your ego?
I commented on your post there.
Quote:Would you care to comment to any of the things I said in my post...
No, because quite frankly, its useless as you already stated here;
Quote:And, personally, I don't put much stock in what someone says about our player factions when their opinion is that our NPC faction is OORP.
So it means that, as with Okinawa, your stance is not going to change whoever talks to you.
How about you two would move your little personal war out of a feedback thread, if you got something about the GC, fine post it here, if not there are some nice other places where you can post it. Thanks...
"This is why the four houses are more or less carbon copies of their respective nations from various points in time. Colonial or atomic age stuff."
Actually, the reason most of the Vanilla factions are so poorly characterised is due to poor quality writing on the part of the original writers of Freelancer.
We have the ability to go beyond simple stereotypes now.
' Wrote:Care to tell me which bases those rumours are on then? Like what you refused to tell Unselie when questioned? Or are you going to just give me a bunch of (ids) numbers?
It'd take you a few minutes to look up every rumor with those ids numbers. You want me to bake your cake, and feed it to you too? It's not my fault you did no evidence of your own before posting here. Those rumors can be found aboard Kusari stations. Some from Ainu, some from Roppongi, the others are from Planets, Samura, and Kishiro stations. If you can't be bothered to do any research on the faction you are criticizing, why are you posting here?
' Wrote:Also;
Care to also review your evidence yourself, perhaps from a perspective not frought by your ego?
Evidence is evidence, my perspective can't change what it says. Care to respond with actual evidence of your own, or anything to support your views? So far all you've done is attack me and try to say I'm lying, even after I've given you everything you need to find those rumors yourself.
' Wrote:I commented on your post there.
Yes, with personal attacks. That's an argument, not a debate, and doesn't prove anything you say, but rather makes its integrity questionable.
' Wrote:No, because quite frankly, its useless as you already stated here;
It is useless so long as you refuse to actually comment on the post with my evidence with something other than personal attacks and saying the NPC faction is OORP. You have yet to provide anything to support any of the things you said in your first post. Why, then, should we believe you?
' Wrote:So it means that, as with Okinawa, your stance is not going to change whoever talks to you.
I didn't even write the lore for Okinawa. I was given the design, and I modded it into Disco. Out of the entire system, I wrote about two of the rumors, neither of which was lore-related. Furthermore, the 'people who talked to me about it' were the KNF/Samura players who were angry because they didn't have sovereignty over the system, even though they get two new systems for their exclusive use next version. It was just whining and had nothing of substance, just like your last few posts here. I tend not to do something just because people yell at me. If they bring a reasonable, calm, argument to me about why I should or shouldn't do something, then I'll listen. For example; Hogosha asked for a 2nd JH from Honshu to Okinawa so they weren't having to fly through GC/BD controlled JHs, or a GMG-controlled JG. I accepted that, and they are getting a Hogosha-controlled JH added in this coming version.
You won't get anywhere by pointing your finger and saying "You're wrong!" You have to have something to support what you say.
Now, as Jansen said, we should probably not post here anymore. This will be my last post on the matter (unless you bring some evidence or supporting arguments to make this a real debate). If you wish to continue the discussion, feel free to PM or Skype me.