Eh. If a faction wants to change the way they operate, so be it, as long as they don't change it so drastically that it's unbelievable.
I've never seen the LPI as 100% "corrupt". While I see slave trading as something that they might partake of, I can just as easily see them cracking down on it.
LPI is made up of ordinary people. Some are corrupt, some might not mind slavery and all that, but I won't believe that every single one of their officers is like that.
If the LPI wants to start doing its job in-RP, let them.
I'd actually agree with this.
You wouldn't see them being shipped off to Malta - where they'd come from, as the Sugarland houses the Outcasts prisoners. They'd be a "lawful" variant of slaves - or prisoner-workers - if anything, ones that Daumann, the GMG, and other groups would traffic in.
The leap to this sort of market for the LPI makes sense.
Selling them back to criminals, however, doesn't.
Human commodity, yes. Unlawful buyers for it? Hehe, that makes no sense at all.
' Wrote:On the topic of slaves... moving from forced labour to the transfer of said forced labour would be a very small step.
A very small step that would never be taken for reasons stated above. No way in hell Sugarland could support letting go of so many inmates. It's more profitable to keep them and turn a buck. And let's be real. If anyone found out that the LPI was shipping slaves off, especially the Liberty government, it would be over. All contracts canceled. The Navy would pull trump-cards on the LPI and shut 'em down. It's an atrocity that simply isn't justified in any way in my mind.
' Wrote:On the topic of RP:
Liberty Police Incorporated.
Why are they not Liberty Police?
The answer, which I'm sure you know, will tell you everything you need to know about the LPI, corruption, and this, that, and the other thing.
I know the faction name. I know that we are unique as the only privatized police force in Sirius. And I know that as such, there is a measure of corruption. But here's a fallacy: corruption is a result of corporation. EEEEH. Not true. I'll pretty much second what was said above:
Quote:Nobody is trying to say that the LPI is an organization that is lawful good or interested in justice. What I see the leadership as saying is this- We are the law in Liberty, and if we aren't going to be pure we are at least going to be professional. Bribery and personal corruption is unprofessional- its something that the public is going to see and it will hurt the reputation of the LPI and, incidentally, hurt our stock prices.
I really don't see what else I can say. It's so glaringly obvious to me that the LPI would try to stamp out corruption where it can. It's good business sense. Keep the cogs of the machine turning is the priority, not pulling them apart and selling them all for a few credits.
EDIT: Maybe all these problems would be fixed if the LPI wasn't privatized, and was instead re-nationalized. Think that would be too much change for you all?:P
' Wrote:I know the faction name. I know that we are unique as the only privatized police force in Sirius. And I know that as such, there is a measure of corruption. But here's a fallacy: corruption is a result of corporation.
Er, well, not really.
If you take lore literally, it's quite a corrupt police force.
Your prison system is solid proof of that. They're factories.
The LPI brings people in to work, rather than on legitimate charges.
And if you deny that, well, eh.
Sorta through here, that's quite plainly stated in many places.
Additionally, see my above post if you haven't already.
EDIT: Actually, my DSE president (who has much bigger aspirations) would be very interested in seeing the LPI renationalised.
LPI prisons are very similar to US prisons. Just saying.
Anyways. If you feel so strongly about this, why not go ahead and take the LPI challenge? Clearly, if you're so knowledgeable about us and how we run, it should be no problem to fly as one a bit. You can be the most corrupt son-of-a-bitch you wanna be.
sprolfykins Wrote:Your prison system is solid proof of that. They're factories.
The LPI brings people in to work, rather than on legitimate charges.
Interesting.
Perhaps the LPI bring people in on legitimate charges and then make them work?
Your assertation that all people the LPI bring in being actually innocent is pretty farfetched.
' Wrote:Really? There are three federal prisons in my area, non of which are factories.
What he meant was (because we discussed it on skype), many US prisons have the inmates perform hard labor, and many US prisons are privately owned. That's how they're similar.
' Wrote:Interesting.
Perhaps the LPI bring people in on legitimate charges and then make them work?
Your assertation that all people the LPI bring in being actually innocent is pretty farfetched.
Well, you're exaggerating what my meaning somewhat more than it should, and also; It's actually not.
But, I have important things to do.
I shall not endeavour to change the minds of the white knights more than I already have.
'Cause, frankly, I don't give a flying fork.