Would the Devs be willing to make it similar to the old Zoner Gunboat, with the 4 turrets and the two mine droppers? Something along those lines because in all honesty, to let this model go to waste would be stupid.
I really like it for the most part, though I think the front is too circular. It makes sense on the Salvager with the arms and all that potential melting, but I think this should have less roundness and more angularity like the CSV. Nice job though.
Salvager have a lot of guns/cruiser like bots an 160 000 hull to take even gunboats around- it is the best transport in the game- the one that guarantees you that you get in time to the nearest base. Or even kill lone bomber- you can forget attacking it with fighter- not a chance. It holds its own vs gbs too, and I guess it could kill light gbs too.
I cannot see what is the problem about defending yourself.
90% of the lolwut ore transporters switched from Renzu liner to salvager- I pirate 2-3 of them per day and they are the hardest thing to kill that can haul 3000 cargo and have CM- powertrader wet dream ship.
Since the official junker faction does not do much more then trading with lawfuls and hauling miner ore I guess you really does not need good snubs or GB.
TL:TR
Nice ship I like it but the today junkers does not deserve it.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:ffs make it a gunship. We've got enough transports and not enough ways to defend ourselves.
Best heavy VHF of 4.84 Collector (no hitbox)
Best anti snub ship of 4.85: Recycler (DL Special)
Best medium transport of 4.85 and 4.86: Salvager (tank tank tank)
Gdamn nasty tank heavy transport of 4.85: Pilgrim (not sure how it stacks up in 86)
I'd suggest you guys reexamine the potential of well flown nimble small transports in convoys.
' Wrote:Best heavy VHF of 4.84 Collector (no hitbox)
Best anti snub ship of 4.85: Recycler (DL Special)
Best medium transport of 4.85 and 4.86: Salvager (tank tank tank)
Gdamn nasty tank heavy transport of 4.85: Pilgrim (not sure how it stacks up in 86)
I'd suggest you guys reexamine the potential of well flown nimble small transports in convoys.
I don't see what any of that has got to do with anything. A fighter having no hitbox is a bug not a game feature. Recycler being the best anti-snub ship, that's highly debatable.
Medium transport, yea, that's agreed. It's a transport though so not applicable to a debate on combat ships.
Pilgrim turns slower than all the battletransports, it's a beast to fly, not fun at all. You can have it though, no complaints from me.
' Wrote:Salvager have a lot of guns/cruiser like bots an 160 000 hull to take even gunboats around- it is the best transport in the game- the one that guarantees you that you get in time to the nearest base. Or even kill lone bomber- you can forget attacking it with fighter- not a chance. It holds its own vs gbs too, and I guess it could kill light gbs too.
I cannot see what is the problem about defending yourself.
90% of the lolwut ore transporters switched from Renzu liner to salvager- I pirate 2-3 of them per day and they are the hardest thing to kill that can haul 3000 cargo and have CM- powertrader wet dream ship.
Since the official junker faction does not do much more then trading with lawfuls and hauling miner ore I guess you really does not need good snubs or GB.
TL:TR
Nice ship I like it but the today junkers does not deserve it.
The best defense is offense. Since we have a transport that can defend itself we should not develop combat ships? Perfect logic.
' Wrote:The best defense is offense. Since we have a transport that can defend itself we should not develop combat ships? Perfect logic.
Not in discovery. The best defense is not getting into a fight. And the point of my post is the despite years of having combat awesome ships on top of civi code access you guys wank at every turn.
Oh forget it. It's a junker thread. Someone give them the firkin scorpion or something and see how long it is before they complain about it not having enough cargo space.