' Wrote:I'm sad because I'm not 1337 anymore. Oh well, it was a good run while it lasted...
And now the Phantom thread will be dead for a couple weeks until someone else gets shot. See you all then!
I want to be a part of this faction, but was not invited and so now complain about trivial things which don't actually matter, in a bid to make my rejection feel better.
' Wrote:I want to be a part of this faction, but was not invited and so now complain about trivial things which don't actually matter, in a bid to make my rejection feel better.
Is this ok with you guys?
In fact it is, and has provided me with an adequate amount of amusement this morning.
Woah whee woah whee. There's like 5 more pages of feedback here.
' Wrote:Well,at least I learnt that you should never say 'blablabla detected'...and that rp must come from local chat...
Thank you for being completely malicious. We would never wish that someone has a bad time in the game, but oh well. Pretty much what I quoted is what I hope was gotten from the encounter. You made an RP Decision, and we provided you with an RP consequence. If you tell everyone and his mother where a known terrorist is, you better make sure you've vacated the area first if you want to live.
However, RP doesn't have to be in local chat. Sometimes, though, some people may get angry at you for saying some things in system chat. Everything on the server said is rather RP, and there's not much else to say about this.
' Wrote:*There was a chatlog here*
That doesn't really look like the kind of behavior befitting of someone who deserves a Cruiser and we'll have a chat. Sometimes the amount of power and freedom given in having a big ship with a terrorist ID goes to someone's head (it went to mine once upon a time as well), so please, do accept our apologies on the rather sparse amount of coherent language right there.
' Wrote:What about 1 week ago?
I am too lazy to look for screens but was some guy in Tridente with name like Odldium or something..
Edit:
since many people are reading and some might say that I am only raging or so:
I actually don't care I pew pew people with one line too sometimes because they spam cruise and CMs and I have no other choose but if you speak about "quality" of Phantom RP and etc please don't be ridiculous .....
I am not raging or something but I do not think that black is white ok?
Well, as said before, this doesn't really show us anything. We'd be more inclined to believe you in saying that this was it if the scrollbar were on the bottom of the screen or there was even a blue message, but I really can't see anything there at all. Furthermore, you seem horribly malicious, especially in the part of the post I cut out, so, really, what are we supposed to think? So, maybe some more perspective on what happened, where you were, what was going on, and what you were doing would be helpful in understanding what exactly we should do here and whether or not this complaint is legitimate.
' Wrote:Howard,
tt was my char that run across you (in Junker Salvager) few seconds later screaming that there is a big Phantom ship near the j-gate:)the moment before.
[20.11.2010 20:18:57] S/V_Zion: C.J.Meeijn: A Phantom at the other side of gate! Biig one!
[20.11.2010 20:19:15] S/V_Zion: C.J.Meeijn *runs like hell*
[20.11.2010 20:19:25] Jhon"EAGLE"Fox: A what?
[20.11.2010 20:19:37] Corraka: I think he said Phantom.
[20.11.2010 20:19:45] Jhon"EAGLE"Fox: That guy is crazy
So. I was called crazy because of Phantoms. That's the way it should work. +1 for you, guys.:)
So. Back to the Phantoms.
It's perfectly okay for you to attack anybody because of any reason that comes to your mind, but. If someone decides to stop and wait 'till you come close enough, please return the courtesy and actually talk with him. (With, not talk to him).
I asked what do you stand for. Wouldn't it be much nice if you had any answer?
Why is that only guys on the wrong side of the guns have to carry right, RP-cool answers to all questions in their mind all the time? I expected long, deep conversation (though my English-Fu is weak), some reasons why you do what you do. Maybe next time...
I am talking about this situation:
And about the trick with trade request. I understood that you had somehow tell me to stop in that five seconds that left before I would have entered the j-gate, but a simple "Wait, please" would work as well. Do trade requests exist in-RP?
Just for the lulz&joy, the final part of that short dialogue with Phantom. The part which I think was waaaay more scary then the beginning:
[20.11.2010 20:16:58] Schizophrenia: Call them.
[20.11.2010 20:17:04] Schizophrenia: Tell them you'r not coming home from work.
[20.11.2010 20:17:11] Schizophrenia: And that you love them very much.
[20.11.2010 20:17:13] S/V_Zion: C.J.Meeijn: Uh, vacation?
[20.11.2010 20:17:19] Schizophrenia: Yeah...vacation...
[20.11.2010 20:17:23] Schizophrenia: *Giggles*
[20.11.2010 20:17:28] Schizophrenia: But alas...
[20.11.2010 20:17:30] S/V_Zion: C.J.Meeijn: Where?
[20.11.2010 20:17:32] Schizophrenia: Let's leave them guessing.
[20.11.2010 20:17:37] Schizophrenia: Auf wiedersehen.
That words in German were uh... every cool generic villain must have at least German accent, so it was good.
And sorry about that old, bad joke I tried to use as an answer, why not to kill me. Could not think of anything better under pressure.
PS. Today I ran across another Phantom. This one had even less firepower then Schizophrenia, so neither of us decided to stop and chat:
[21.11.2010 10:44:54] Sephiroth: Another Corrupted vessel, a blight on the verse, and curse on sirius.
[21.11.2010 10:45:20] S/V_Zion: C.J.Meeijn: Whoops. Another annoying Ph-something.
You guys should sometimes should take the effort and explain why you hate Junkers so much. In-game, in-RP.
Edit:
I don't mean telling everyone your biography everytime, but something like... Generic-Corporate-Trader: Why do you want to kill me?
Generic-Pirate/Terrorist-with-Ideology: You are a bloodthirsty corporate swine, an active part of the soul-grinding machine. Die!
...would do the job. It is always beter to be despised/hunted/killed for a specified reason. It would ensure us, targets, that it's because of in-RP reasons, not because of blue message (and being an easy target); it feels much better better (yes, it can feel good when your char take a pounding ).
And I don't mean to offend you (accept my apologises if you feel offended).
After all, there are dozens of groups that claim their favourite targets/enemies to be <insert some general, [u]unspecified[/u[ insults>, which is bad, evil and shall be exorcised.:)
In all honesty, a lot of cases provide that revealing our motivations would be counter-productive, but in the case of Junkers, a small explanation would probably be okay. Thing is, though, Phantom personalities also have a big effect on whether or not this happens. My Phantom would be very happy to tell you that it probably isn't your fault at all that you have to die, but it's more of an unfortunate circumstance that your friends have put you in, and therefore you have to be used as an example for them. Other Phantoms may not respect Junkers enough to give them this exposition, and so you get someone like Madame Psychosis giving you a small exposition about how you're going to explode and like it.
As for an explanation, the Junkers were neutral to us at one point, but decided that they would rather protect the Harvesters from us than stay neutral, and then proceeded to insult us. That is why they are being made an example.
Also, folks, if you either aren't in the faction or don't have any Feedback, please don't talk here. Kudos to Maximo for sneak feedback (smoke).
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
My first impression of phantoms? Well... he came there in a fight where i already was pretty ganked, metagamed my LSF ID on civilian ship with civilian equipment and freelancer IFF and shot me with having setup of maximum pvp advantage.
Not likely i enjoyed this first meet because of ridiculous amount of fail. Even novice players ain't that bad.
Gentlemen, I wish totell you all that despite allthe whining you get from people, at the very least this person recognizes that you all fill a very important role in Sirian lore. Your faction hate been an excellent story driver for me in the Virulian Enclave and any time I have come across any of y'all in space, it has caused me to work at overload just to try to stay alive.
I honestly look forward to any and all encounters with the Phantoms as it realt does provide the refiners fire for some of my RP.
Keep up the good work!
I am [The_Angels]Mortis. If you need help regarding the rules, the game, or just need someone to talk to, feel free to contact me on skype or PM me.
When I met a Phantom for a first time, he told me he has a grudge on me. He told me the fight I was in was unfair and started shooting. The unfairness was a lie, as we started the fight 5 on 2 (me being one of two) and managed to down numbers to one, but my college lost all except one gun... And that last enemy ran and dodged when I tried shooting him.
So that is totally unacceptable RP. Totally because:
1. Only 2 lines of RP.
2. Lie that it was unfair.
3. Stupid reason ("grudge") to shoot.
The exact member I encountered was named Bake or Bane.
I wish such behavour would be fixed and would not be repeated.
' Wrote:My first impression of phantoms? Well... he came there in a fight where i already was pretty ganked, metagamed my LSF ID on civilian ship with civilian equipment and freelancer IFF and shot me with having setup of maximum pvp advantage.
Not likely i enjoyed this first meet because of ridiculous amount of fail. Even novice players ain't that bad.
Kudos.
If you'd like to share more context, names, or any kind of other details on what exactly was going on (Screenshots are wonderful but not really required), we can do something about making the experience more enjoyable in the future. From what has been gathered, I can't really make any kind of judgement.
' Wrote:When I met a Phantom for a first time, he told me he has a grudge on me. He told me the fight I was in was unfair and started shooting. The unfairness was a lie, as we started the fight 5 on 2 (me being one of two) and managed to down numbers to one, but my college lost all except one gun... And that last enemy ran and dodged when I tried shooting him.
So that is totally unacceptable RP. Totally because:
1. Only 2 lines of RP.
2. Lie that it was unfair.
3. Stupid reason ("grudge") to shoot.
The exact member I encountered was named Bake or Bane.
I wish such behavour would be fixed and would not be repeated.
Same thing. More context and more detail would be appreciated. Screenshots are pretty awesome, but again not required. If you could just give me things like a paraphrase (better to be exact of course) of what the two lines were, how the grudge was justified, and other kinds of details, it would be greatly appreciated.
PMing me these things works as well if anyone is uncomfortable in sharing publicly. Thank you.
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
' Wrote:My first impression of phantoms? Well... he came there in a fight where i already was pretty ganked, metagamed my LSF ID on civilian ship with civilian equipment and freelancer IFF and shot me with having setup of maximum pvp advantage.
Not likely i enjoyed this first meet because of ridiculous amount of fail. Even novice players ain't that bad.
Kudos.
"Depending on the opinion of the player, this may or may not be considered metagaming. You chose the LSF ID to be recognized as a member of the LSF. But alas, forum politics."
Is what was said in the Phantom HC chat, and which I stand behind as the Phantom in question. I'll address the "ganking"... I called everything else off you and gave you a one-on-one shot. Told the cruiser to stop shooting, Joker sided with me and did that as well. You're the one who brought in another [LN], leading the Joker Thug to jump in as well. We started the fight with full nanobots, both. If you really want to be an undercover LSF agent, the best way would be to go with a Freelancer ID too. It was a rush, snap decision (combat going on, I saw the ID and didn't even bother at looking at your guns or anything else), so I pounced. I was there to talk to the Joker, not pour a paragraph of RP into a ship that was fighting. And a ship that had just blown up a ship that was on "my side" (supposedly, didn't see who you killed).
But all of that aside, I don't see a need to justify myself. My goal was getting to the Joker with no hostiles around, you were obviously impeding that goal. You could've had a Freelancer ID, I would have still jumped into the fight and blown you up.
' Wrote:Gentlemen, I wish totell you all that despite allthe whining you get from people, at the very least this person recognizes that you all fill a very important role in Sirian lore. Your faction hate been an excellent story driver for me in the Virulian Enclave and any time I have come across any of y'all in space, it has caused me to work at overload just to try to stay alive.
I honestly look forward to any and all encounters with the Phantoms as it realt does provide the refiners fire for some of my RP.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you, it's good to get some positive feedback with the negative as well.
' Wrote:When I met a Phantom for a first time, he told me he has a grudge on me. He told me the fight I was in was unfair and started shooting. The unfairness was a lie, as we started the fight 5 on 2 (me being one of two) and managed to down numbers to one, but my college lost all except one gun... And that last enemy ran and dodged when I tried shooting him.
So that is totally unacceptable RP. Totally because:
1. Only 2 lines of RP.
2. Lie that it was unfair.
3. Stupid reason ("grudge") to shoot.
The exact member I encountered was named Bake or Bane.
I wish such behavour would be fixed and would not be repeated.
1. If combat is taking place, don't expect people to pour paragraphs of RP in before jumping in.
2. Likely, he didn't know how the fight started out and was acting with incorrect information (all he could know was what he saw, esp. if the kill messages were all "killed by whatever error" for mine kills.
3. That would depend on the character. Maybe Bane has a grudge on all of the people in your faction?
If you can provide evidence of the encounter and provide specific proof of misconduct, action would be considered.
All what happened is already written, that's why I am unsatisfied. But if you insist I will upload logs to your PM after an hour.
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@ zapp
You don't jump into fight when it does not involve you. It was Oucast Sabre vs 2 [LN] low ranked members. (in the very end it was)
And as I said, we had ~7 guns per two ships on Sabre and I DID told the Phantom about the how it started. He still started shooting.