' Wrote:Would not really be getting paid. It is getting re-imbursed.
Look at load scams, and ship scams. They are getting cash back right?
So why not a trader, or Pirate, or lawfuls or anyone else? Yes a screen of cargo with time stamp would be required. Cannot really scam this anyway i can see. You have cargo to lose, or you do not.
As to the Storage ship thing, yeah pretty dumb sitting in open space. Thing is i did in past see 1 Storage ship take 6 Nova's no warning. The guys were stripped of guns. Woopy, but that storage ship lost over 50 CODEs.
Now maybe it is just me. But i think punishment must fit the crime. But alot of times a lone bomber for example loses guns/armour. Trader loses 50mil+ not really an fair trade off i find.
Now i in no way want a new rule. This is just curiosity.
Because ship and loan scams happen very rarely compared to cargo being lost in game.
With this for every second pirate encounter there would be a report with hopes of pirate actually being wrong and compensation on it's way.
What might work in practice is some form of set compensation as per the offence committed.
The compensation here would always be monetary and always the same regardless of what is in the hold of the victim, and generally too small to be worth attempting a scam. Not sure if it should apply to non-transport/freighters, because that might encourage people trying to get killed in fighters to farm money. Maybe compensation should scale with ship value, but not hold contents. Compensation is transferred from the offender's account to the victims ON TOP of any fines etcetera.
The reason the compensation doesn't scale with hold contents (unlike in Common Law systems) is to make it unattractive for scamming and to keep report frequency down to near current levels.
Just an idea, I think there are lots of holes here still/ openings for a scam attempt.
I still think people shouldn't be reimbursed for loan scams.
I'm sorry but if your more than happy to give money to a complete stranger who you've never met ingame and give no proof they they could every give you your cash back then your being a victim of your own stupidity.
Yes the scammer should be punnished for being a dick but the victim shouldn't be be refunded just because they fell victim to thier own lack of common sense.
Ship sales are a bit different, since they are technically OORP.
Good idea. Right now the only thing we can hope for is that we'll see them sanctioned. But the cash/cargo should come from the offender instead of the admins just takin it. This way the offender will think twice.
' Wrote:I still think people shouldn't be reimbursed for loan scams.
What I don't understand is why is it in roleplay section when roleplay is completely ignored. As it has been stated player history is relevant, regardless of character applying for a loan.
If you loan money to a stranger played by veteran player, you will be reimbursed. If you loan to a lawful company played by a newcomer, you won't be.
Now tell me what kind of RP does this encourage when it's safer to loan Mr.LeStranger rather than Honshu Optronics?
Well maybe if they'd met him ingame they'd have noticed he was a criminal ...
Thats usually a big clue to thier intentions.
The thing is stuff like that happens IRL all the time. People take out loans with no intention of paying them back. Banks being willing to loan out money to Mr never heard of you before is what caused this recession in the first place.
' Wrote:Well maybe if they'd met him ingame they'd have noticed he was a criminal ...
Thats usually a big clue to thier intentions.
The thing is stuff like that happens IRL all the time. People take out loans with no intention of paying them back. Banks being willing to loan out money to Mr never heard of you before is what caused this recession in the first place.
Nobody checks. Just another double standard advantaging veteran players. This also a debate for another thread, the locked one.
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