Pirates. No longer a navy problem.

[Nicolas]

All i got to say is "to fracking bad" They all use transports to abuse the Cap/trans rule. So let them die. I will fly my Liberator around, and laugh at those getting pirates, and telling them to go call the police. I am to busy looking for rheinlanders to fight.

This rules works for both sides, lawful caps may not kill unlawful transports, and unlawful caps may not pirate. This is fine as it is.
And why do you want the whole server to be forced to play like you do? If you don`t want to hunt pirates, don´t do it.

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[Narendran87]

signed...

[Dratai]

Considering I have yet to see a single police character in any system.
And the people enforcing trade commodity restrictions are apparently all the navy.

wellp.
This is dumb.
The whole suggestion.

Perhaps when you actually play police yourself (which, as I said, i have yet to see anyone do), I'll perhaps lend an ear.
For now, this is just dumb.

Really, really dumb.

"There's a pirate in my face, painting grafitti on my ship, I'm going to leave that to the nonexistant cops." <- Pretty much

Edit: Another one of these "everyone must cater to me" threads that we could do without.
Oh boy.

[Laerethe]

What happens when the pirates bring in cap fleets? No longer a Navy problem?

Plus, there aren't enough police players to balance the pirates, AND pirates have free reign to use military-class tech. Military technology is often needed to balance pirate tech; police tend to be limited to LF, with perhaps a HF thrown in the mix.

Lets agree that any pirates deliberately abusing the cap/transport rule should destroy themselves.

This rules works for both sides, lawful caps may not kill unlawful transports, and unlawful caps may not pirate. This is fine as it is.
And why do you want the whole server to be forced to play like you do? If you don`t want to hunt pirates, don´t do it.

Its also a question of tech, as mentioned above.

[Jimothy]

A possible solution is to merge the police and military factions for each house into one. Radical, yeah, but workable.

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[Coin]

Now everyone keeps saying navy should not be dealing with pirates. Well i am going to agree. From this point on all pirates you have a free pass to rape/murder/rob/eat or what ever the hell else you want to do infront of the Yorktown. You are now a police problem like everyone is saying pirates should be.
I invite all other navy ID'd ships to join in, and leave pirates alone, and for the police to handle by themselves.
What say you all? Discuss. Lets see how fast the PvP whoring pirates double, and triple in numbers with all 2-3 police ships on server have to stop 40-50 pirates alone.
Remember this is discussion not flood. So please no trolls. What say you all. New rule. Navy cannot shoot Pirates/unlawfuls. This way they can all run around like transports with imunity.

Not the best RP decision Of course policing is to be done by Police and not navy But when an emergency arises Navy should act unless an police pilot is there to handle it

give the police something to do. in a situation where criminals are threatening civilians and the police are out-gunned, the control of the situation is given to the police, not the army, for the preservation of evidence, etc.

for this to work, the yorktown should be placed under the direct control of lpi.
i would love to know how this works out, and if it can be a blueprint to rescue activity of the rest of the factions.

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[Mímir]

In some weird way I agree with the OP to the extent that the Navy still go hunting for liberation movements/terrorists etc. For instance in Lolberty rogues are plain ol' pirates with no grander political motives (in general, some might be taking their rogue rp in a slightly different direction, but lore-wise they ought to be plain "smash and grab" pirates), and as such they should be hunted by police, whereas Hessians in Rheinland is a slightly different matter.

Perhaps the time has come to differentiate pirate factions from each other - some are actually just pirates, where others are liberation fighters. Also I think this would give strict lawful players a better idea of what is really going on in the world of piracy and that it is way way way more than the oh-so-famed "2milordai"...

So instead of just having a huge category labelled "pirates", it might be more fitting to have "pirates", "freedom fighters / terrorists" etc. Several different categories.

EDIT: Also yeah it really sucks that you never really see any LPI players. To my memory - and this might be faulty - it is really only in Rheinland (and to a smaller extent Bretonia and Gallia) you see players actively choosing police over navy.

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[mwerte]

It´s not really a good idea in my opinion, this would leave pirate/unlawful factions like Mollies, Blood Dragons, GCs or Hessians pointless. Since it`s their RP to overhelm the government, which is defended by the Navy.

Yeah, but inRP, the Hessians, Mollies, GC, Dragons, and Hackers only have fighters or bombers, no gunboats, cruisers, or anything like that. The police can deal with the fighter raids.

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[VoluptaBox]

I actually agree. But I don't want it for the reasons you do. I approve of this, because it would give police factions something to do. For once, police wouldn't be just navy stuck with worse ships. On the flip side, the navies would end up not having much to do, since you can't raid/be raided 24/7. Would still be an interesting development that I'd love to see.

[Dratai]

To be honest...
Bombers are more or less military-class vehicles.
If pirates can have bombers, they're not just pirates anymore, they're equipped to fight capital ships, which is a military requisition vehicle.

If pirates can have bombers.
Navy can has pirate problems.

lore wise, wouldn't, say, outcasts only deploy bombers versus corsairs anyway?

But that's just digression.
While the police is as outnumbered as they are, in, say, lolberty, as there are not a whole lot of people going in there outside of pirates/lolcasts, I think navy sshould still deal with them.

That, or force some navies to become police.