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Offline Demothesus
02-05-2011, 01:19 AM,
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I've found that the Kusari explorer is actually a very intense ship to fly. May be a bit big, but it is armored as a tank. If you feel like focusing on capital ships and transports, I have had luck with a full cerb layout--just chain-fire for better than average use against fighters and bombers. If you expect more fighter/bomber resistance, you could get Battle Razors and Pulses, or perhaps 1 missile and a combination of factional gunboat turrets (Though against gunboats you will have a tough time without heavy capital armor).

I'd recommend it, despite its size. Just remember, armor and vast power.

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Offline Daedric
02-05-2011, 07:46 AM,
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' Wrote:Zoners won't hand out a Conference if the owner is planning to use it for piracy.

inRP we won't.

However, I am very approachable about making ooRP tech permissions. My only requirement is for it to be reasonable and for there to be some form of role play involved with how you got it.

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Offline Xenosaga
02-05-2011, 11:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-05-2011, 11:09 AM by Xenosaga.)
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' Wrote:I've found that the Kusari explorer is actually a very intense ship to fly. May be a bit big, but it is armored as a tank. If you feel like focusing on capital ships and transports, I have had luck with a full cerb layout--just chain-fire for better than average use against fighters and bombers. If you expect more fighter/bomber resistance, you could get Battle Razors and Pulses, or perhaps 1 missile and a combination of factional gunboat turrets (Though against gunboats you will have a tough time without heavy capital armor).

I'd recommend it, despite its size. Just remember, armor and vast power.

I disagree. The KU Explorer just has a huge powercore, nothing more.
First off, it is not a tank. Its 100k armor are only average.
Yes, it is great for Anti-Transport use, but bombers rape it. It may also have trouble fighting smaller (especially narrower) Gunboats, since the Explorer will always be outmanouvered.
Missiles suck without exception, too much lag. And a single missile is not that dangerous on its own. You'd have to spam them, however since their energy-efficiency sucks too...Please forget GB missiles.
I have experience with the Explorer: Unless you have some friends that escort you, you are a flying target practice.

From what I've seen, the Corsair GB looks very nice. Same powercore as the Explorer, more turrets and smaller shape.


However a general gunboat advice, since most players think they are invulnerable when they fly something bigger:

1. You will not kill a running fighter/bomber with it, your thrust is too slow
2. You are extremely vulnerable to ganks

Generally, a Gunboat is NOT something for a lonewolf in my opinion. Sure, pirating a single transport is easier in this thing, but once the lawfuls arrive the fun is over.
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Offline Bootsiuv
02-05-2011, 04:37 PM,
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' Wrote:I disagree. The KU Explorer just has a huge powercore, nothing more.
First off, it is not a tank. Its 100k armor are only average.
Yes, it is great for Anti-Transport use, but bombers rape it. It may also have trouble fighting smaller (especially narrower) Gunboats, since the Explorer will always be outmanouvered.
Missiles suck without exception, too much lag. And a single missile is not that dangerous on its own. You'd have to spam them, however since their energy-efficiency sucks too...Please forget GB missiles.
I have experience with the Explorer: Unless you have some friends that escort you, you are a flying target practice.

From what I've seen, the Corsair GB looks very nice. Same powercore as the Explorer, more turrets and smaller shape.
However a general gunboat advice, since most players think they are invulnerable when they fly something bigger:

1. You will not kill a running fighter/bomber with it, your thrust is too slow
2. You are extremely vulnerable to ganks

Generally, a Gunboat is NOT something for a lonewolf in my opinion. Sure, pirating a single transport is easier in this thing, but once the lawfuls arrive the fun is over.

^^that....

....and I also have a pirate explorer, but I only ever use it when i'm grouped with a mix of fighters/bombers....then it serves as a decent little "flagship" for our pirate mini-fleet.

That being said, if there is any bombers in the enemy fleet, it's usually quickly downed.

Explorer = Meh at best IMO.



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Offline Boss
02-05-2011, 04:41 PM,
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Kusari Explorer: Get three GB missiles, chainfire them.

Put GB Basics on the other slots. Fighters and bombers will curse your name, and the regular guns can drop a transport's shield easy enough. Then you light into them with missiles too.

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Offline Xenosaga
02-05-2011, 05:32 PM,
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' Wrote:Kusari Explorer: Get three GB missiles, chainfire them.

Lag

' Wrote:Put GB Basics on the other slots. Fighters and bombers will curse your name, and the regular guns can drop a transport's shield easy enough. Then you light into them with missiles too.

Actually, the damage output of 4 Basics is not that great, a bomber/fighter would have to be really stupid to let himself be deshielded by it, let alone take serious hull damage. Additionally, it takes ages to take down 100k of Transport shields with 4 Basics.
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Offline lw'nafh
02-05-2011, 09:48 PM,
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' Wrote:I disagree. The KU Explorer just has a huge powercore, nothing more.
First off, it is not a tank. Its 100k armor are only average.
Yes, it is great for Anti-Transport use, but bombers rape it. It may also have trouble fighting smaller (especially narrower) Gunboats, since the Explorer will always be outmanouvered.
Missiles suck without exception, too much lag. And a single missile is not that dangerous on its own. You'd have to spam them, however since their energy-efficiency sucks too...Please forget GB missiles.
I have experience with the Explorer: Unless you have some friends that escort you, you are a flying target practice.

From what I've seen, the Corsair GB looks very nice. Same powercore as the Explorer, more turrets and smaller shape.
However a general gunboat advice, since most players think they are invulnerable when they fly something bigger:

1. You will not kill a running fighter/bomber with it, your thrust is too slow
2. You are extremely vulnerable to ganks

Generally, a Gunboat is NOT something for a lonewolf in my opinion. Sure, pirating a single transport is easier in this thing, but once the lawfuls arrive the fun is over.
I don't hang around when I finish up with the guy.:P

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Offline Llama
02-06-2011, 03:17 AM,
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In my opinion a corsair has the most freedom- Yet again I'd have to say (as well) that a gunboat is not really well... Safe to pirate in. A bomber can- Go in, kill, leave and still have a chance to aviod being killed.

With that being said I would recommend you forget your gunboat idea and go for a bomber. If you want to be free- Go for a Roc with a pirate ID (downside- SNAC only every 10.5 seconds) or a warran with a much better powercore.

If you want to be with a faction with a large ZOI- Corsairs seems to have it good. (Rheinland, Bretonia (dubblin esp'), Sigmas and sometimes going up into Kusari even.

Hope I helped- Good luck. Have fun.

Cheers- Hayden.
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Offline Ceoran
02-06-2011, 12:12 PM,
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' Wrote:or a warran with a much better powercore.

ugh, I'd rather take a gunboat than to fly that brick again.

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Offline Salt
02-06-2011, 09:58 PM,
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Meh, personally I love the Tridente. But seeing as your RP will kinda clash... meh.

Rouge GB with full basic turrets enables you to kill anything out there. Aside from 2 or more bombers/ fighters unless you're uberawesome.

Ku Ex.. I don't like it... at all. Too big... WAY to big.

LH Gunship is...okay....

Gaian GS is... (see above) But is limited to turrets not being able to turn to the rear.(Same as LR GB)

Get a P-trans...

Or you'll have to get the Ku Ex.

Or the Corsairs. Up to you.

*coughs*

Tridente.

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