' Wrote:A while ago, while we were talking about the anti-junker crussade, and I called the kusari presence in sigma 13 (aswell as the multiple bounties) excessive and opressive use of force that does not happen in RP canon, and likened it to sieges of pirate bases like buffalo or the rogue destroyer in New YOrk, which are frowned on in general, you said that here it is ok because you are the emperor of Kusari and you say its ok.
So if you dont have any real power per rules, what makes it ok then, and any different from 20 lolwhuts camping Buffalo, because a pirate led them there?
There is no anti-junker crusade. And from the looks of the current talks in the Council of the Rising Suns, the aggressive actions against the Junkers are about to cease. If what is said there, is about to happen.
However, since you have made it your goal in this thread to demonize the KPT, I hope you understand that the only reason I even entered Sigma-13 and started locking down the system was based on the approval of both the KNF, Emperor and the GMG. All three parties must approve of the move before I can go there. I'm not putting the blame on them, I'm not putting the blame on anyone, as there is nothing to blame - it's only Role-Play. But I'm saying that I do not just go and make decisions of my own, I talk to the allied Factions, similarly to the way the Emperor has gained his status and recognition thanks to the surrounding Faction Leaders who are affected by his presence and operations.
The assassination bounty was my idea, but it's just an idea, the KNF have to approve it as a Faction for me to execute it. The data bounty was my idea, and required no approval, it was one of the few things that the KPT did on their own. If you have issues with these details then you are free to make a thread about it, this is however not a thread about the KPT or Kusari, and how they attack Junkers. This thread is about independents versus Faction* members.
' Wrote:As for faction vs indie relationships, the problem comes when lolwut indies do ridiculously stupid things and the factions get blamed for it.
Case in point, JunkersVs.Kusari, The [A], the Corsair Order thing, the lolwut BAFminers, complaints about the LN, all sorts of things.
You are such a slime-ball. You were one of the people who used to contact me privately and say you wanted to support the [A] (believe me, I do not want your support), even during the communication threads regarding the subject you would openly defy the Zoners. And in game I recall your Corsair character promoting the warfare against Zoners. I do not justify or try to defend [A], they did what they did.
But you, you were definitely one of the guys yelling for Freeport destruction, and now you come here and start saying the exact opposite, I know why you are doing it, I just find it amusing how after the entire charade you switch your opinion.
But if we want to stay on-topic and within the context of what you are trying to tell us, you do realize that the Elders could have stopped the [A] any time they wanted to. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why they remained passive.
' Wrote:None of those peace/ceasefires get in the way of indies shooting, and yes, they are all quite silly. However, indies causing war gets in the way of peace, specially when people blame it on the factions.
It's exactly the Official Corsair Factions who are to blame for anything related to their own Faction's Role-Play. They have the power to stop or continue anything. If they truly wanted the [A] to stop harming the neutrality between Zoners and Corsairs, they would have intervened, even the Omicroners understand this, that you as a TBH member don't is laughable.
' Wrote:Cuse he's been here a long time.
No, because he has earned the trust and respect of all the Kusari Lawful/Semi-Lawful/Corporation Factions. Something that requires a myriad of qualities as a player and good experience of Kusari Lore. As much as you love to comfort yourself that it's all about number of posts, join dates and bias, it's actually about proving your worth as a player. Yes I know, the jealousy is exploding within you, wishing you could ever be asked to lead or be in charge of something, but here's an honest tip for you. Instead of wasting your time and energy barking about these things, you could have been more productive. Perhaps a bit of self-reflection is in order?
And before D.Individual comes and quotes that last sentence with an analysis of my own behaviour, I'm pretty aware of your opinion after the last fifteen threads of which you have already stated it in. Call me naive, but maybe that's a sign that I just don't care of what you are saying.
Quote:It's exactly the Official Corsair Factions who are to blame for anything related to their own Faction's Role-Play. They have the power to stop or continue anything. If they truly wanted the [A] to stop harming the neutrality between Zoners and Corsairs, they would have intervened, even the Omicroners understand this, that you as a TBH member don't is laughable.
Sails supported the attacks. Benitez didn't, and TBH as far as I recall was undecided (until Zoners with Order attacked Gamma, after that they pretty much signed their own collective deathwarrants).
And those personal attacks and namecalling were uncalled for Yamakazi. Makes me lose respect for you as a player. You could have pointed out hypocracy without that.
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' Wrote:Sails supported the attacks. Benitez didn't, and TBH as far as I recall was undecided (until Zoners with Order attacked Gamma, after that they pretty much signed their own collective deathwarrants).
And those personal attacks and namecalling were uncalled for Yamakazi. Makes me lose respect for you as a player. You could have pointed out hypocracy without that.
Believe me, after your IMG HC friend PM'ed me and tried to powergame out a transport I had set ready for Eva in Freeport 4, any "respect" I had for your faction was lost.
Cool off. And D.I. I think you missed my point in that thread, which was that Buffalo and the Rogue Destroyer are secret bases, while Yanagi is not, and none of that is because I am the Emperor.
' Wrote:Sails supported the attacks. Benitez didn't, and TBH as far as I recall was undecided (until Zoners with Order attacked Gamma, after that they pretty much signed their own collective deathwarrants).
Basically if the Council of Elders really wanted it to stop, it would have been stopped. If any of the three factions had wanted it to stop, it would have. Anyone who says different it lying. I think the council was upset with some things, and so they didnt feel like stopping it. Thats how rp goes sometimes.
' Wrote:There is no anti-junker crusade. And from the looks of the current talks in the Council of the Rising Suns, the aggressive actions against the Junkers are about to cease. If what is said there, is about to happen.
However, since you have made it your goal in this thread to demonize the KPT, I hope you understand that the only reason I even entered Sigma-13 and started locking down the system was based on the approval of both the KNF, Emperor and the GMG. All three parties must approve of the move before I can go there. I'm not putting the blame on them, I'm not putting the blame on anyone, as there is nothing to blame - it's only Role-Play. But I'm saying that I do not just go and make decisions of my own, I talk to the allied Factions, similarly to the way the Emperor has gained his status and recognition thanks to the surrounding Faction Leaders who are affected by his presence and operations.
The assassination bounty was my idea, but it's just an idea, the KNF have to approve it as a Faction for me to execute it. The data bounty was my idea, and required no approval, it was one of the few things that the KPT did on their own. If you have issues with these details then you are free to make a thread about it, this is however not a thread about the KPT or Kusari, and how they attack Junkers. This thread is about independents versus Faction* members.
I did no such thing. I understand that the current Junker-Kusari situation is an evolution of prior RP between the two, what i am questioning in the origin of that RP two-three years ago.
' Wrote:You are such a slime-ball. You were one of the people who used to contact me privately and say you wanted to support the [A] (believe me, I do not want your support), even during the communication threads regarding the subject you would openly defy the Zoners. And in game I recall your Corsair character promoting the warfare against Zoners. I do not justify or try to defend [A], they did what they did.
But you, you were definitely one of the guys yelling for Freeport destruction, and now you come here and start saying the exact opposite, I know why you are doing it, I just find it amusing how after the entire charade you switch your opinion.
' Wrote:I did no such thing. I understand that the current Junker-Kusari situation is an evolution of prior RP between the two, what i am questioning in the origin of that RP two-three years ago.
The origin of the rp is Vanilla. If you look at the Junkers infocard, it lists two enemies, the Xeno's and the Hogosha. Now, the Hogosha are very influential in the Kusari government. As such, they have lobbied the Kusari government to take harsher measures on the Junkers to keep them out of Kusari, as the goal of the Junkers is to take over the Hogoshas market in Kusari. Neither the Hogosha, or Samura want to see the Junkers gain a foothold in Kusari. Samura and the Hogosha also represent to of the most powerful forces in Kusari. It shouldn't be a surprise how this turned out. MInd you the Junkers, and the Junkers Congress have made numerous assaults on Kusari in that time, do I need to remind anyone of the Junker barge? Or the Congress RM Battleship that went traipsing across Kusari? This one goes both ways, and would be good rp if people stopped whining and complaining,
I have fought side-by-side with your TBH Character against Zoner/Order/TCG forces, I distinctively remember your character shouting: Let's go destroy Freeport 9! And similar words in-game, you promoted Zoner warfare just as much as I did, and now you change your opinion.
I even remember a thread you made which was a compilation of pictures you took of mortars being fired upon the Freeport 9.
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