' Wrote:The Bounty hunters actually can relax quite a bit. They don't have to do their paperwork themselves.
They let their guildmasters work on all the big contracts. And because the Guild has many pilots a company or house, would rather work with the Guild than some simple Freelancer.
This because the Guild has a good reputation for these Houses or corporations.
' Wrote:Stop getting in Vigi ID's way people! Bounty Hunters are not do gooders. They belong to a frickin guild which expects them to collect money, so they can fill their pockets.
Unfortunately indies and indie groups without reputation can't relax.
Don't forget bounty board rule 6:
6. All bounties must specify the persons hired to take the bounty before they can start collecting on it.
' Wrote:Bumping again to the above. Both employers and employees are responsible for the regulations here. Those claiming bounties need to make sure they are on the registered claimers list on the boards they are claiming bounties from. Those who are claiming bounties on boards they are not registered on are breaking the rules. Bounty Board owners are also responsible for making sure they have a list of registered hunters/mercs. Listing IDs is not sufficient. Individual character names and/or faction names must be listed.
What doesn't work; "All Freelancers, Mercenaries, and Lane Hackers"
What does work; "LH|, Reavers, That.Merc.Guy, etc"
A check of this forum section will be done in two days. Boards that do not comply with the above rules will be closed.
So in this case the bounty board rules should be changed, that a bounty hunter can actually freely collect lawful bounties as it is supposed to be. That's what everyone expects from them anyways.
Join the BHG| if you want to be a Bounty hunter?
And have the contracts done by the Guild Masters.
<strike>Also if a bounty board says 'Bounty hunters can claim' instead of 'Bounty hunters have to apply'
You do not have to apply as a indie BHG to the board.
You can simply claim if you give evidence of your ID and so on when you claim.</strike>
If you're a indie-group... or Freelancer.
- Then you choose for the paperwork too.
If you're a bounty hunter...
- Then you choose to just do your work and let others handle the contracts.
Pretty simple.
Edit: was wrong about that one but fixed, still don't see how this limits your RP btw.
From my understanding what you are saying is violating the bounty board rules and therefore open for a pvp abuse sanction.
It is awkward, but an indie bounty hunter is required to sign up at a lawful board BEFORE collecting bounties. A mighty bounty hunters guild doesn't exist for him if he is not doing factionlancing.
' Wrote:From my understanding what you are saying is violating the bounty board rules and therefore open for a pvp abuse sanction.
It is awkward, but an indie bounty hunter is required to sign up at a lawful board BEFORE collecting bounties. A mighty bounty hunters guild doesn't exist for him if he is not doing factionlancing.
Check on how many boards the BHG| is applied.
You can basically shoot almost every unlawful in every house space or even Omega's and Tau's.
Forumlancing isn't really the most important thing out there either.
There is something called "Bounty Hunters Guild" which is what the WHOLE of bounty hunters belong to, indy or faction. They are not independent people, and they all belong to the guild. So your char has to act in accordance with the guild's expectations in RP, that's 'killing for money only'.
So I am saying, "I don't care if you have to put your bounty kills on forums, you are expected by the BHG RP to kill only for money. And the only way to track if you are not going 'ENGAGBUG' is through that rule in pink letters."
About that reputation thing which I couldn't get properly... You want to kill people freely because you want to build a reputation? For what reason do you need that reputation for? To get bounty contracts? Kill freely to get bounty contracts? No one ever had that reputation problem before. Be sure that everyone will accept you to their boards without a problem.
Quote:So in this case the bounty board rules should be changed, that a bounty hunter can actually freely collect lawful bounties as it is supposed to be. That's what everyone expects from them anyways.
They can collect bounties freely as long as they post it on forums. Shouldn't be much of a problem unless you are lazy enough to deal with the necessary requirements that would keep your RP in line.
You see those BHG NPC killing Outcasts in Alpha, it's not because they enjoy it you see... They get money for it, and if one day those Outcasts were not bountied by someone for those NPCs, they would stop shooting them. That's what you call "canon RP". If you want to change that RP, contact admins, official faction leaders, or whatever.
@SeaFalcon
The discussion started with the Freelancer ID and brought up thoughts to reintroduce the vigilante id. I said, we should take away a little bottleneck from the BH-ID to let them have the choice to roleplay a good guy for reputation. Someone else earlier stated, a decent reputation is as helpful as good money.
Now you are neglecting the part of "reputation" that has to be earned by indies, by just focusing on the official player faction BHG|.
This shoe is not fitting for a BH indie. He still has to apply. He is not part of that particular guild. He has to earn reputation but is unable to do so by rules.
' Wrote:About that reputation thing which I couldn't get properly... You want to kill people freely because you want to build a reputation? For what reason do you need that reputation for? To get bounty contracts? Kill freely to get bounty contracts? No one ever had that reputation problem before. Be sure that everyone will accept you to their boards without a problem.
Do I have to remind you that a WHOLE house(Kusari!) was closed due to reputation issues for EVERY hunter?
That thing was also Canon RP, since FL v1.0. There are many reasons why Kusarians didn't want BHG in their space, besides that reputation thing you keep saying.
' Wrote:Want to help a friend?
- Don't do it with your 'on-duty' ship...
Edit:
As for that, I got a character who I got about 7 ships, with different ID's, because he/she would do different things at times.
If you can't do everything with a certain ID, you just switch the ship and ID to bypass the restriction? .... :nono:
That's like Rorry decides to be an LN Dreadnought commander to give hell to Rheinland caps and when he is "off duty" he floats around in his pirate ided ship to order his bunch of criminals....
This is not how it is supposed to be! There is a reason you may only have one ID. You can't just have them all for a single character.
If you are too restricted with a certain ID, like the bounty hunter id, you eventually stop playing it. That's the issue I am trying to point out here.
I have a BH orca, but it is only used for specific situations. If I need to clear unlawfuls from an area, I am more likely to use one of my house military ships, since it will already be near the area, and it doesn't need to have roleplay justification for engaging the unlawfuls ("kill your engines" and "refusing to comply requires destruction of your ship" is all you need). The only time I use the BH ship is when its closer to a combat situation, or when I want to use it for a specific fight.
The paperwork is annoying. Since the server gives my kill to "an NPC" or "an admin" or something about half the time, I dont have to do paperwork on those. If the kill messages weren't bugged, the ID would probably be too annoying.
Restrictions on the ability of a BH ID ship to provide assistance to lawfuls is a real irritant. Easier to use house ships.