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mjolnir · 11-12-2007, 01:43 AM,

' Wrote:There was no flaming in here til you came Vtec.

Just think it needed to be point out one more time.

I was not complaining neither was I referring to the engagement with Tony. I could come with some tasty comments about last night but I won't because I posted this trying to start a reasonable discussion. I even thought it could be done without naming the characters.

I do still think that sitting in Kusari with the only battleship of your faction is not a reasonable RP scenario. Off course you can do that, off course it's not against the rules. I can see the BS moving in to cover the retreat of the fighter like in the second case, but not just sitting in front of New Tokyo like in the first case.

VTec you are again very right that you CAN stay all day there. New Tokyo is quite busy with traders (and will soon get even more busy I guess) and many of them are newbies. What does a newbie do when he sees a big pirate BS sitting there virtually invulnerable? "I want that ship... I want to be a pirate". Don't think it'll bring more factions that you can fight against to life or make less people use capships. I don't think filling your cargo bays with NPCs pilots is what you are looking for on the server.

Anyway as the new beta is very close now maybe it will fix the issue - with both new bombers and tougher NPCs. I just thought it could be fixed without it.

Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

RickJames · 11-12-2007, 02:46 AM,

If folks see me in their system just hail me. I try and notice if a player ship is around and stop shooting. If the system is contested for whatever reason I'll just fly away. Unless someone chooses to do some RP with me.

11-12-2007, 08:04 AM,

ok Guys

Vtec is being accused of flamming here, but i can not see where?

you are moaning for all the wrong reasons, The NovaPG has a history same with all long term factions on here,

Now if the New fly by Night Factions want to fit in, do you research before posting crap on the forums about a long term faction that will be here long after all the others have turned to dust.

again post relevent stuff here or dont post at all.

Cheers

Vtec · 11-12-2007, 08:06 AM,

' Wrote:VTec you are again very right that you CAN stay all day there. New Tokyo is quite busy with traders (and will soon get even more busy I guess) and many of them are newbies. What does a newbie do when he sees a big pirate BS sitting there virtually invulnerable? "I want that ship... I want to be a pirate". Don't think it'll bring more factions that you can fight against to life or make less people use capships. I don't think filling your cargo bays with NPCs pilots is what you are looking for on the server.

If there is a BS or Cruiser, a trader has nothing to worry about.... because we cant attack in BS's or Cruisers

bluntpencil2001 · (This post was last modified: 11-12-2007, 08:11 AM by bluntpencil2001.)

I think Mjolnir's criticism (which I disagree with) is that Blood Dragons are terrorising Kusari with a bit too much firepower for the task at hand. Overkill, if you will.

I agree that it does look like overkill and that, maybe, small wings of fighters would be better for Blood Dragons, however I am of the opinion that big attacks on KNF NPCs like this will force KNF to get more players and become more active which the server needs.

Basically, if the KNF aren't prepared to defend their home, don't blame their enemies.

Vtec · 11-12-2007, 08:50 AM,

' Wrote:I think Mjolnir's criticism (which I disagree with) is that Blood Dragons are terrorising Kusari with a bit too much firepower for the task at hand. Overkill, if you will.

I agree that it does look like overkill and that, maybe, small wings of fighters would be better for Blood Dragons, however I am of the opinion that big attacks on KNF NPCs like this will force KNF to get more players and become more active which the server needs.

Basically, if the KNF aren't prepared to defend their home, don't blame their enemies.

Thank you, and if the new mod version comes things will change aswell

bluntpencil2001 · (This post was last modified: 11-12-2007, 09:04 AM by bluntpencil2001.)

I hope so.

I think that we should organise a big drive to get players to join factions that are needed on the server, like KNF.

Right now, it looks like the Blood Dragons have succeeded in their mission to take over the Kusari throne.

Now THERE'S an idea!

Could all KNF and KSP planets be retagged as Blood Dragon, showing that they have won, forcing KNF into the insurgent role?

11-12-2007, 09:11 AM,

Now Thats a good Idea

Shogun Intoxication and his personal Killer Kana Kieko.

Now if the war was over, Free beer for all:)

Cheers

mjolnir · 11-12-2007, 11:58 AM,

' Wrote:I think Mjolnir's criticism (which I disagree with) is that Blood Dragons are terrorising Kusari with a bit too much firepower for the task at hand. Overkill, if you will.

I agree that it does look like overkill and that, maybe, small wings of fighters would be better for Blood Dragons, however I am of the opinion that big attacks on KNF NPCs like this will force KNF to get more players and become more active which the server needs.

Basically, if the KNF aren't prepared to defend their home, don't blame their enemies.

I agree with blunt. Big attacks might get some more players to join the KNF. When it's attacks not camping (mostly referring to the first incident now).

Whole point with this thread was that Kusari pirate factions are the ones that kill KNF (nothing new eh:)?), blunt called it overkill. Very few new players want to join the weakest to fight battles that they can not win against all those non faction destroyers/BS that fly trough Kusari all the time. Kusari pirate factions ("not big in numbers, but they make it up in flying skills" -Ozu) in Dreadnoughts in New Tokyo don't help it.

In reality the citizens of kusari would maybe run to the nearest KNF recruitment office to defend their home. In Discovery the players just go somewhere else and that's what I also can do instead of complaining on the forums. I just thought it would be good for everyone if KNF was up and working.

It took me 3 days to realize that virtually camping outside Vogtland in my RM, shooting down every RHA that undocks is not so much fun for them and if I'll continue like this there will not be many RHA flying around.

That was my last 2 cents.

Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

Dopamino · 11-12-2007, 12:39 PM,

' Wrote:ok Guys

Vtec is being accused of flamming here, but i can not see where?

you are moaning for all the wrong reasons, The NovaPG has a history same with all long term factions on here,

Now if the New fly by Night Factions want to fit in, do you research before posting crap on the forums about a long term faction that will be here long after all the others have turned to dust.

again post relevent stuff here or dont post at all.

Cheers

All I was saying was that no one was being insulting, etc until Vtec said

Quote:PS: Admins close topic please bevore this crap goes furhter

That's it.

I mostly lurk around Media Center these days.

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