The convoy got jumped by Outcasts because of its cargo, in a period when the Rogues were a lot more dependent on them. Also, keep in mind that the Rogues at least cooperated with the Order. It's not so much of a stretch to say that the Outcasts might've operated for the Order in this case. The Outcasts never liked artifacts, either, that's a fact: if an Outcast NPC scans you with them in Vanilla, he'll make you drop'em. Shortly after, even, the convoy was attacked by the Rheinwehr. Perhaps it was the Orders' attempt to secure the artifacts before the Rheinwehr would. It wouldn't be the first time they'd send someone else do the job for them when their actual agents were unavailable. (The Bundschus, the Blood Dragons).
And yeah, considering how the Molly actually finances both the Rogues and theirs shipyards through their gold mines, and that both can at least maintain a fleet of destroyers, I'd say they're pretty much independent from the influence of the Outcasts. The Mollies themselves got rid of the Outcasts as allies, so did the Hessians.
' Wrote:I dont mean offence by this question card; but are you actually in the LR? Is this an official response I'm getting?
Also Outcasts are ENEMIES of the Order, I dont know what your talking about them "operating" for them.
I've been in and out of them for the longest time, so I believe I'm qualified enough to reply. Actually, I'm not part of them.
Vanilla never stated the Outcasts were enemies of the Order. They even hid Quintaine on their own station, fully knowing he was working on stuff the Order would be interested in.
I've met outcasts who claimed to worship the nomads, but this is getting REALLY offtopic, card I appreciate you trying to answer me, but I'd prefer if someone currently in the LR answerd ok? Thanks.
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You don't seem to understand how things work, let me explain.
For numerous years the Liberty Rogues have weaned ourselves from Cardamine use, less than five percent of our numbers are now addicted to the substance.
The Liberty Rogues do not mind Outcasts in Liberty. It's when the outcasts in question begin to pirate or hunt LN that they become a problem.
Outcasts must remember that Liberty is the pirate turf of the Hackers and the Rogues. We don't like competition, and so we drive out all who try to steal our income.
Outcasts hunting LN however are usually simply killed. This is because after a few navy ships are killed, a huge fleet then retaliates; which makes it impossible for us to pirate, because the LN usually target us.
If an outcast is escorting a trader, we let them pass. But there's no point for anything bigger than a bomber to be assigned to this role. That is the reason we shoot down all capital ships; however Tridentes do get a chance to leave. But usually these Cap Ships are there for one sole purpose - to shoot LN.
Also in regards to us looking for fights. Most of the time we just run away. We're survivors, we fight every now and then to remind the LN of our power, but we don't actively hunt down ships to kill. We just prefer to move out of the way and wait for the lawfuls to pass before returning to piracy.
And you say we don't RP with traders? We try our best to. However most of the time when a trader is disrupted, they simply engage cruise engines and ignore us completely. This happened to me three times the other day, in a space of 15 minutes. Two of the traders actually opened fire on me without warning. But I have enjoyed 30+ minute chats with traders I have been pirating.
Oh and, try to keep it on topic. This thread is for people to ask the LR- questions. Not discuss the relationship of the Order and the Outcasts.
@ -=BrotherBear=-: As far as I know, you rogues are addicted to the outcast cardamine. Without it you are junkies without fuel...
So, you should respect this alliance between outcasts and rogues even more. I am not talking about indies with loldreads coming in Liberty to get some luls. I am talking about the official outcast factions.
Now roleplaying a pirate that is bloodthristy is okay, but only inRP, but having some respect for others players it's something to have in mind. An example would be this, I come here to put some questions to the LR, they then tell me to go and QQ somewhere else.