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Offline Gateway Shipping Inc
10-18-2013, 01:00 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-18-2013, 01:21 AM by Gateway Shipping Inc.)
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Offline belarusich
10-19-2013, 02:52 PM,
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Contraband on Gateway ships is not so good...
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Offline Black Widow
10-19-2013, 04:39 PM,
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I don't see how supplying the Bretonians on Leeds with ammunition is contraband in the eyes of other Bretonians?

Especially since the cargo is headed for a lawful legal destination and not a pirate base, hardly smuggling is it?

The ammo is sold on Detroit munitions another lawful source in Liberty!
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Offline Slainte
10-19-2013, 06:02 PM,
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Have to agree with Widow here.
Be good, though, to get a government contract through the brets and libertonians to haul it all legal like despite the name ?

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Offline GrnRaptor
10-19-2013, 06:09 PM,
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(10-19-2013, 04:39 PM)Black Widow Wrote: The ammo is sold on Detroit munitions another lawful source in Liberty!

And Slaves are sold on Planet Pittsburgh, a DSE base. I suppose you'd be fine hauling those as well since you can get them from a lawful source?

If House law says it's contraband, you shouldn't be hauling it as a lawful company. Not unless you want to get into trouble with said House(s). Don't confuse in-game sourcing with in-game legality.

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Offline belarusich
10-19-2013, 07:11 PM,
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well since that is contraband in both Bretonia and Liberty(as far as I know), thats smuggling...
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Offline Black Widow
10-20-2013, 05:09 AM,
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(10-19-2013, 06:02 PM)Slainte Wrote: Have to agree with Widow here.
Be good, though, to get a government contract through the brets and libertonians to haul it all legal like despite the name ?

Yes

(10-19-2013, 06:09 PM)GrnRaptor Wrote:
(10-19-2013, 04:39 PM)Black Widow Wrote: The ammo is sold on Detroit munitions another lawful source in Liberty!

And Slaves are sold on Planet Pittsburgh, a DSE base. I suppose you'd be fine hauling those as well since you can get them from a lawful source?

If House law says it's contraband, you shouldn't be hauling it as a lawful company. Not unless you want to get into trouble with said House(s). Don't confuse in-game sourcing with in-game legality.

Its not really smuggling if its Munitions your carrying, for if you read here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=19206 you will see that Bretonian Corporations including Gateway have a license to haul Restricted Goods through Bretonia this includes Munitions. Thus, Black Market Munitions fall under the same category!

(10-19-2013, 07:11 PM)belarusich Wrote: well since that is contraband in both Bretonia and Liberty(as far as I know), thats smuggling...

As, Above.
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Offline Swoop
10-20-2013, 05:16 AM,
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Munitions are not the same type as Black Market Munitions. There is a reason the names are separated much like how passengers are not the same as slaves or prisoners. You might be ok transporting prisoners for a house but that doesn't make it acceptable to transport slaves.
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Offline GrnRaptor
10-20-2013, 08:43 AM,
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(10-20-2013, 05:09 AM)Black Widow Wrote: Its not really smuggling if its Munitions your carrying, for if you read here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=19206 you will see that Bretonian Corporations including Gateway have a license to haul Restricted Goods through Bretonia this includes Munitions. Thus, Black Market Munitions fall under the same category!

Nope. Check it:

Bret Law Source

Bretonian Charter of Interstellar Law Wrote:3.2 - Goods Classified as Fully Restricted Contraband
•Artifacts
•Black Market Munitions
•Cardamine
•Counterfeit Software
•Gallic Artifacts
•Hypnotainment Bands
•Liquid Cardamine
•Nox
•Slaves

Lib Law Source

The Laws of Liberty Wrote:I. Contraband possession and restricted commodities.


It is illegal to have any amount of these goods on your person at any time:


• Artifacts
• Black Market Munitions
• Cardamine
• Counterfeit Software
• Gallic Gate/Lane Parts
• Human Organs
• Hypnotainment Bands
• Liquid Cardamine
• Nomad Remains and other materials
• Nox
• Nuclear Devices
• Slaves
• Sorted Artifacts
• Stabiline
• Synthetic Marijuana

Get it? Munitions are not Black Market Munitions. They're labeled with the "Black Market" preface because they're illegal, and there's a reason there's a difference between them and regular Munitions. Bretonia requires a license for regular Munitions, true, but both Houses clearly say that Black Market Munitions are illegal for everyone.

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Offline Cælumaresh
10-20-2013, 12:43 PM,
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In regards to the thread i made:

(12-12-2009, 06:49 PM)Kanzler Rheinhardt Wrote: §2. The following activities are defined as unlawful in Rheinland Space:

§2.1. Contraband possession: Shipping of the following list of goods in Rheinland is illegal (note the exceptions below):

Quote:Artifacts;

Black Market Munitions;

Blood Diamonds;

Cardamine;

Counterfeit Software;

Gaian Wildlife;

Slaves;

Synthetic Marijuana;

Human Organs;

Nomad Materials.

This Galaxy is vast; its wonders and beauty are almost unfathomable. But the galaxy also hides dark secrets, some of which have lain dormant since the beginning of time itself. There is a danger in secrets, both in seeking and in knowing. Some things are meant to be hidden from view. Some mysteries defy understanding, and sometimes even the things we think we know are untrue. Some secrets should remain untouched.


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