(02-27-2014, 09:24 PM).Gypsy. Wrote: Caps for Official factions only.
The general idea of taking away capitals from independent players will not bring anything good.
Instead of taking away ships, we should give the official factions, or at least those that represent the house/nation militaries a kind of a unique flagship that will be slighly better than the faction battleship, or the idea of a better capital armor update...
(03-02-2014, 02:25 PM)lIceColon Wrote: You forget the difference between zoner and rheinland battleships.
Zoners don't have more bs than rheinland because they have higher production capacity, of course not. They simply have more nephs than rheinlanders have turtles since Nephs- being supposedly neutral, don't get blown up all the time, unlike turtles.
Besides, nephs aren't really battleships. they're just colony/exploration ships with Battleship capabilities
Couldn't have worded it better myself
As someone who played A LOT of Zoners I gotta throw in for anyone who doesn't ZONERZONERZONER
If you read the Zoner lore (Not player faction lore) you will see that the Nephilim/Juggernauts were conceived, designed and launched as Zoner an experiment for the purpose of research and data that would/could aid in future vessel designs (for whatever purpose, go wild with that imagination).
Given the nature of the Zoners, ZOI and the lore it's only logical that their need for capital vessels ships are
-Trade protection (This is a questionable point I agree)
-Base, Planet and turf protection
-Simply need to be prepared for anything in the unknown and possibly extremely dangerous regions of space
In these regions of space they're either, Colonizing, Conducting resource operations, exploring or gathering data via numerous methods.
Thus anyone flying a Juggernaut for reasons other than above isn't a Zoner.
I've been out of touch with Disco for a while and was only ever part of 1 unoffical now-defunct faction but Zoner Juggernauts need to be restricted to only official Zoner factions as they're the only players with enough sense to respect the lore, rules and RP thus no/little mis-use of the devious Zoner's ID and accessibility of the Nephilim would occur.
I'm going to add: Restricting access to any other capital ships be it Cruiser, Battle-Cruiser or Battleship BESIDES the Zoner Nephilim/Juggernaut is a silly idea that needs to be taken behind the barn and shot unless you want to Discovery to die faster than it already is.