BomberS > anything else that's not a fighter
just my 2 cents
Unfair, unprofessional and bad considering XA is not a lolwut group (or is it?) but an official faction.
Also, the event was badly organized. You can't expect for discovery community to play fair. You have to set restrictions and moderate the participants. Free for all will always turn into this kind of crap. And this was a trade event so it should have been a peaceful meeting between two sides. Restrictions on pirates should have been in place.
And with this I bid you farewell. I don't want to have to deal with XA again.
(08-25-2014, 01:44 AM)Mao Wrote: BomberS > anything else that's not a fighter
just my 2 cents
Unfair, unprofessional and bad considering XA is not a lolwut group (or is it?) but an official faction.
I would advise cooling down and listening to yourself afterwards. By your words, every single faction that uses bombers to blow up caps or transports is a lolwut.
Anyways, I'm out of this. You all are entitled to your own opinions. Feedback thread if you wish to resume.
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(08-25-2014, 01:44 AM)Mao Wrote: You have to set restrictions and moderate the participants. Free for all will always turn into this kind of crap. And this was a trade event so it should have been a peaceful meeting between two sides. Restrictions on pirates should have been in place.
*sigh*
If RP is supposed to be realistic what-so-ever, a "peaceful meeting" will not always occur. You can't, in reality, moderate if hostiles attack your trade summit or diplomatic meeting or whatever. And when we were requested to pull off and let the RP occur, we did. We were chased by BAF and others, and we had to fight them off, but we left, and let the RP commence.
Plus, we were "allowed" and even encouraged to attend, if the original post is to be believed.
I do sincerely apologize if we ruined anyone's fun, but I guess you can't please anyone. In the future, I suggest specifying if you don't want pirates or hostiles to attend.
Gonna leave this thread, too, before bad things happen.
As the event host, I'm actually going to give a big KUDOS to the Xeno Alliance for showing up. I had invited unlawfuls to show up (although I was hoping more for cargo pirates more so than bombers).
What some may or may not realize is that I was deliberately contacted OORP by the XA group leader, who offered to retreat away from the event to allow us to continue, which they then DID without complaining.
We then had a good 20 minutes to continue with the summit RP, all while other lawfuls showed up to try and attack the XA ships (also big kudos to the LN 5th fleet group, and the Faze mercenaries, and Junkers who assisted in our defense after aid was requested).
I thought the event went well, all things considered, and thanks to all who participated!
In rp as you say XA couldn't have known about Kusari-Bretonia meeting but somehow the came in greatest numbers I have ever seen in Cortez. Gallia also didn't know for the meeting and thus didn't bring Valors in Cortez.
We will not argue who ganked who and who had more ships. Because you all know that 5 bombers can kill 5 battleships, but if you don't know I know. Happens every time when I'm on RM and when RM raids Liberty and then they call RM gankers for using a few bombers. So bombers bomb everything, that's what they do.
And if highland allowed you to come and make some fuzz in the event, I'm sure he didn't mean come bomb us all because this is trade event and we like to get bombed instead of trade, but you meant it's just lots of easy transport kill let's go get blues. Don't pull that trick about massive foreigner fleet in some backwater system far away from your home. You should spend more time defending Colorado.
And for the end, don't you dare accusing me of raging and to chill out, this is stating the facts.
EDIT: The event was a bust, after XA finished pewing none of the Bretonians was left behind so we, the Kusarians, were like oh what now...
Well....my question to Geolog and any others who said the event was "busted" or a failure, what more did you want or expect to happen? Sure, we got attacked, we lost a few ships (still had plenty left when the RP started), we did some RP, we traded goods, and then everyone had the chance to try to escort safely back home.
As I said....I WOULD have preferred for pirates to actually try to steal cargo instead of just bombers, but there's certainly RP precedent for it, I had deliberately NOT wanted GRN to show up, which is probably the only reason you didn't see Valor-whores in Cortez, and the XA were at least polite enough to willingly retreat to allow us some time to RP.
I stand by my first assessment: successful event, and I'm glad you guys made it.
Edit: Cortez was originally chosen because it is A) diplomatically neutral, and therefore a good place for international meetings
B) when this event was thought up, I had imagined hosting it close to Oceana Shipping Platform (my POB in Cortez), which also could have provided some decent defense, but sadly it was hacked and destroyed and hasn't been restored yet, so we just decided to keep going, and C) a little danger is good/fun.
(08-25-2014, 02:27 AM)Geolog Wrote: In rp as you say XA couldn't have known about Kusari-Bretonia meeting but somehow the came in greatest numbers I have ever seen in Cortez.
Big trade summit; so secretive.
Thank you to Highland for understanding that space is dangerous and things can't always go the way of lawfuls. Perhaps this might lead to a few bounties on Xenos by Bretonian/Kusarian corps )
@Mímir: Cortez is neutral ground, that's why it was picked. Not in Kusari and not in Bretonia. Imagine what would happen If you would to put up until yesterdays enemies in capital system of one of the houses, who knows what could in rp that turn out to be.
@Highland Laddie: In the end there was chat about did we even sign a trade agreement. As it turns out some say we did so at least that's that. And as you have said XA were nicely invited to come, I guess you forgot to tell them to come to pirate us. Cause they came and bombed us all out of existence.
After the chit chat in front of the planet there wasn't much goodbye and that just Brets leaving not caring how will we return. Hopefully we had 2 transports left to get us fuel and get out of that mess. Have you attended Kusari - Gallia trade meeting. Now that was something. I guess not everything can turn out as you plan it, I accept that.
Not going to respond here again cause it's just mind breaking to write, instead I'm going to take a good sleep. Good night to everyone.
EDIT: Nothing, changed my mind not worth the second of my time.
Kind of disappointed from the Kishiro| side of things because members have a sour taste in their mouth. I didn't get to make it, but I've been trying to get things in order as much as I can personally. (Massive thanks to Bob for Satsuma help and all queries and fixing and just generally good advice all around.)
If we had known an organised force of bombers were coming, especially an official faction with forum accounts and the ability to read and post in a forum thread, and they performed the courtesy of informing us, perhaps we would have brought different ships.
If we had known the event organiser was not going to use FR4 to stop the XA-, we would also have acted differently.
You may wash that down with whatever brand of sodium hydroxide you desire.