As a new person, I just prefer to maintain a condescending attitude towards any drama, abstract from anything that people say about other people and leave inRP inRP. So far it helps a lot even though I feel like I need to shout certain words out of my window sometimes. Hehe.
Anyway, I just decided to create some activity or whatnot in-game, work with factions of interest whatever their illusion-of-reputation-made-up-by-other-people is, send comms sometimes and concentrate on in-game stuff. Do I do it right already? @_@
Some certain people have always had an issue with keeping things fair and fun for both sides, with the mentality: "I must win this at all cost". What has changed recently, is that exactly these people became more organised.
And when you are getting burnout that often, then something is fundamentally wrong in this mod.
The frustrating part is when you try to make Disco a better place e.g. by trying to mend problems with people, and you make one mistake in an unrelated setting and the positive development of weeks does not just go out of the window, but the starting point is not even reset at 0, but at minus 10.
This experience I would rate the most disappointing in quite some Disco time because it somehow makes me question the ability or willingness of the community to actually change to the better.
All these people saying that the Community sucks aren't exactly wrong, but sitting around and doing nothing about it isn't going to help this place heal.
There's a lot of issues that need to be worked out here. The most recent ones were done with the changes to the development team, but there's a lot more that needs doing, especially in the Community at large. People need to realize that this is a game and a game is meant to be fun. The environment isn't meant to be cushioned, either. People need to stop taking everything as a personal attack, and doing things for the sake of gaining something rather than playing the game for fun. When you start playing the game strictly to accomplish something, you're turning it into a chore that you dislike doing.
The most fun I've had recently was an RP meeting in Omega-3. It was semi-organized and the first time I've logged where I wasn't supposed to be shooting someone/being shot by someone. The size of the community right now isn't helping. People aren't playing with the characters around them but the people behind the characters, and that's causing more tension than there needs to be. The first thing a lot of people say when interacting in a group is usually an attempt to find out who is specifically behind the character, not really taking an interest in the character itself. That to me is - for lack of a better term - absolute ****. Don't do that. Don't look at players when you play the game, but don't forget that they are players.
I encountered something just yesterday, where members who disagreed with a decision made to not allow them to remain part of a faction whilst given good reasons for it have then turned to an opposing faction just to grief for the sake of griefing all because pride was knocked down a peg. People as a whole these days (Not just in this community I might add) don't know how to deal with rejection. Growing up in the '80s and early '90s I learnt that life isn't handed to you, nor does anyone owe you anything. And people older than me had it much more simpler than I knew, yet today's teenagers seem to think it's about getting what you want now with out the work involved, and when something doesn't go their way or they don't win at everything then they expect to be consoled and told that they are still #1. Sorry children, if the man beats you at something, disagrees with you about something or simply doesn't let you do something; deal with it. Take it on the chin and learn from it. Instead what we find is that when they are faced with something they disagree with, then that opponent is immediately a threat to their survival and as such is treated as if they just committed a heinous crime against humanity.
Unfortunately for us all here in this community, we are surrounded by these self indulgent and bubble wrapped teenagers who think just because they can sit behind a screen and be whoever they want to be that they also should get what ever they want their way and when it doesn't happen, they are happy to watch the world burn to appease what ever self conscious deficits that sit within their under developed social skills.
It's not the community itself, it's the integrity of the players. This I fear will never, ever be rectified as this game gets older the teenagers arrive here fresh every year simply degrades further from the good old days where life was about a winner and a loser and instead "everyone gets a gold star just because".
(03-21-2017, 01:24 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Are they willing to work together and overcome these problems we are facing? Right now, it looks like everyone (for the most part) is in their own isolated box.
Players here to work together? No way, they would rather jump at your throat.
This will never change because these are the players we play with nowadays. Years ago we never had such rude people around.
If you want to change something start by telling them to change their personalities and manners.
(03-21-2017, 01:24 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Are they willing to work together and overcome these problems we are facing? Right now, it looks like everyone (for the most part) is in their own isolated box.
Players here to work together? No way, they would rather jump at your throat.
This will never change because these are the players we play with nowadays. Years ago we never had such rude people around.
If you want to change something start by telling them to change their personalities and manners.
(03-21-2017, 01:24 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Are they willing to work together and overcome these problems we are facing? Right now, it looks like everyone (for the most part) is in their own isolated box.
Players here to work together? No way, they would rather jump at your throat.
This will never change because these are the players we play with nowadays. Years ago we never had such rude people around.
If you want to change something start by telling them to change their personalities and manners.
So I find myself agreeing with Vendetta as far as this is a game and games are meant to be fun and people should not be using . And I don't feel personal attacks until someone makes them personal IE griefing or shadowing. The game is meant to be played together not against each other. It is a RP server not a PVP server. The PVP asspect exists to further RP. And while not every encounter needs to be used for RP, IE pirating or bounty hunting. You should not log in with these as the sole purpose. RP makes the community fun and grow. Even hostile RP can be fun. However when some one logs in and two minutes latter an enemy of theirs logs in and starts hunting them, I have seen this on several different characters, that specific some one feels targeted because they are being targeted because they are. Doing this once or twice won't hurt anything but repetitive encounters like this where RP is attempted and shot down causes the players to feel like they are being bullied. Vendetta was right in saying there is a lot wrong but the fact of RL is that you cannot please everyone. I am down to RP with who ever feels like it. I came to this server because it was a RP server. I was once told, a long time ago, by a Liberty Pirate that in this server no matter where you are their should be a RP answer to help. Weather that is to surrender or to help the individual out. I am not aware of all the issues on the server but if we are to accomplish anything we have to figure out how to work together. The definition of a good RP is to absorb the character of the person you are playing. If you choose to play Gus play Gus. If you choose to be Cindy be Cindy. Leave personal beliefs out of it.
Those discussions won't result in anything. We have two paries in this community: The ones who care and give something, and those who don't care and take. You won't be able to change the latter. My suggestion is to stay away from the ooRP forums and feedback threads, because especially the latter never did anything good but drama. If you're confronted with dicks, don't give a fruck. The community has enough members that are worthy to play with.
Just everyone mind their own business, find their own goals and remember this all is a game. A game where people already cry when you roleplay you got your hands on a ship that is inRP part of another faction. And people cry ooRP about that. It's cringe-worthy. And so are many, many other ooRP related aspects. Simply keep distance from any ooRP stuff and you're fine.