(12-21-2017, 05:04 PM)Deep Space Solutions Wrote: Of course. you are a Lane Hacker, and you have friends in the comunity who dont like me personally, why would you post an objective reply, right???
If you cannot see past faction membership and answer important questions then even more so my concerns that this faction does not deserve official status with such attitude at this point is valid.
The most hilarious thing is, that I was more concerned as Ageira leader and LibGov rep, but now I feel quite odd due to being negatively judged as LH~ member, despite LH~ wanting factions to thrive and succeed so all sides could have plentiful and meaningful interactions.
Thank you for showing true colors.
You are not negativly judged because you ar LH, i for one like the LH RP and bacground story.
If you feel judged it is because you judge yourself.
What goes around, comes around my friend
Look at the response DSS gave me. Instead of answering question, they avoided it basing how subjective it is on me being LH member and apparently having friends who don't like someone, who I have no clue is leading this faction. If this is appropriate response by your ( DSS ) standards, then those standards are way below what is expected of official status.
DSS should respond to content of the post without being wrongly judgmental about who is posting that.
Now cut the bullshit and either answer properly or cancel this request as neither the quality behind faction nor the attitude of the faction is fitting with official factions' responsibilities.
To answer your question, no we will not follow the strict DSE NPC ID restrictions or their jobs. We are gonna create a unique mix of trading, escorting, reaserching new stuff, Disruptor and Cloak production and mining plus repair services, while trying to stay neutral to all as much as possible - for now.
Second, no one is judging you for being a LH, or has anything against LH RP for that matter. But befor giving advice on RP, please work on something more than just " How much is your life worth to you " and " Give me 5 milion or i'll put a hole in your ship ". Then you can tell someone to improve on their RP.
Also, your smug remarks is what makes people answer the way they do, not the fact your a LH member. You are not helpful with your replyes but judgemental, and your here since 2010. I was 2 months in game when i started helping newcommers to the best of my noob abilities. You should be one of the most helpful guys on disco.
And if i become like you after 8 years of game time, i will write a big fat request to admins, asking them to remove me from the server permanently.
Please try to improve upon your conversation style, especially towards newcommers, it will not only improve your game relations but the ones in RL also.
We bring our characters in game and in RP, so it is not hard to learn about people from their way of communication in game and on forums.
Dont take this the wrong way my friend, we all need to improve on something in our lives.
I'd consider checking again what you try to acomplish. If you want DSE perks but you don't want to represent DSE, you should have chosen a Freelancer ID. Why? Because you can't simply use a DSE ID when unoficial and then instantly change your faction's affiliation. You start as DSE, you keep as DSE.
Secondly, what SnakThree said, in my POV (Point-Of-View), was that you have a few flaws in your method to do such. Not saying that there is only one way to RP don't get me wrong.
Furthermore, Pirate RP is incredibly rich. If you think doing a threat to a trader inRPly is not good RP, then you should check again what you- think. A Pirate can choose to ask for money by force, or by a small *donation request* in a polite way. Now- we all know how OORPly the world of Disco fell. Most traders (80% or so) usually contact someone on Skype/Discord to save them if a trader is around, which is also why- most pirates tend to rush in demands.
SnakThree:
I get it your patience is depleted- from what I think. But I do think rising the tone against a faction will solve nothing. Just a thought...
Sorry to interject here,
My guys had a misunderstanding with Snak3s guys in-game, this lead to a few accidental blues and a ruined trade convoy. The majority of people in his position would have lost their Stuff, but he was willing to take the time to talk about it, work through it and realize the errors made on both sides. For you to suggest that one of the few actual adults (mindset, no idea how old he really is, doesn't matter) be removed from the server is mental. Please reframe from making personal insults to other members of the community, especially the ones who know their stuff.
Now, seeing as I'm here, here is some actual feedback.
I understand the drive to make something new, unique and different. I agree with your philosophy there, keep it up. Understand that the existing DSE bases aren't your assets if you are going down this route you should focus on inrp "owning" 1 or 2 of their stations and start RPing your factions expansion into the other DSE assets over time.
Can you please add some depth to your goals. Everything there is really achievable which is great but there's no visible reason as to why? Why are you setting out to reach these targets and what makes you more likely to succeed over DSE Original, who are now your primary competition.
A few comments for how you could improve your write-up
(12-05-2017, 01:48 AM)Deep Space Solutions Wrote: Deep Space Engineering has recently ventured into 'the unknown' of the business world, putting together project Dallas - A large clean up effort in Texas after the hyper-gate incident; hoping to reduce the amount of radioactive material in space with the ultimate goal of making the system habitable once again. They are working closely with the Junkers to achieve this goal, using a mobile refinery and a selection of Combat service Freighters.
Texas is habitable. You mean make a certain region habitable? Or safer? Why do they want to do that?
How and why are they working with junkers?
(12-05-2017, 01:48 AM)Deep Space Solutions Wrote: 51 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering is formed from several Manhattan construction companies.
51 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering is awarded a contract to build the Baltimore Shipyards.
58 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering completes the Baltimore Shipyards and begins building larger ships using the Ageira engines for colonization.
65 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering establishes a Boron processing plant on Planet Houston, thus colonizing it.
126 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering is awarded the contract to build a research facility in the Texas system for Ageira Technologies company.
128 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering completes construction of the Dallas, an enormous research and manufacturing facility in the Texas system.
142 A.S. - Deep Space Engineering is awarded the contract to purify the water on Planet Los Angeles, so turning Planet L.A. into the food basket of Liberty. This is done by bombarding the planet with Ice Asteroids. Bombardment begins three years later.
Would be better to replace every "Deep Space Engineering" with DSE or even better a less repetitive sentence structure.
(12-05-2017, 01:48 AM)Deep Space Solutions Wrote: 817.A.S - Because of the mysterious disappearance of that time DSE president Lars Johansen, a very successful Johnny Flow takes over. He takes the DSE company to great heights. Him and his wife Bess enjoy great success creating contracts and making connections
It is not long before the DSE success is noticed through all of Sirius, even the unwanted parties like: Rouges and Outcasts who only benefit at someone else’s expense. It was only a matter of time before someone meddles in there affairs and tries to ruin a great Flow family…..
*Rogues
What about the Lane Hackers?
About the rest of the story, I'd make it shorter, less focused on the Flows, and more focused on engineering/research activities and their motivations, because that's more interesting for people who read as they dont have the same attachment that you seem to have with the Flow characters.
I was wondering why you want official status. I mean what do you hope to gain from it or do with it.
I can see, that my feedback was ignored and nothing really changed. Your goals are still "Mine ore, deliver cargo and produce cloaks" and nothing more. The main page is still ugly and hard to read, the whole story is still something like "DSS brave is winning filthy DSE, bless us", very unpleasant to read,
Moreover, I've just found out, that you are going to use the bonuses of DSE ID, without doing DSE job.
Also, it seems, that someone just don't know, how to handle feedback. Everything I can see just complaints about Snak3 and LH behavior. Shall I remind you, that this is your feedback thread, not his?
I can only echo what others said before me: If you want Deep Space Solutions to become an official faction with a DSE ID but without willing to take care of, propagate, advance, or in any other way care about the lore and roleplay of the DSE NPC faction, you've likely misunderstood the point of faction officialdom and the role of official factions.
I'd advise you reconsider your choice and either chose a different - likely generic, most probably Freelancer - ID, start to care about the DSE NPC faction, or withdraw your officialdom request.
This answer is directed at you my friend, since your the most constructive critic i heard in this thread so far. Thank you for reminding me there ase still people willing to help in a meaningful maner.
You have suggested a very important thing. The ID has to change. In one hand we gain the freedom of Freelancer ID choices and freedom. On the other hand we shall have to make do with a 3.600 units cargo ships limit. Which in turn looks like more trips for the transports. Waged one against the other, its not a bad deal, so thank you again for this sound advice.
ID proposition changed.
Also on the matter of goals, i will make changes to the goals description in depth. You are right again, folks would like to know as to why this or that.
I only wish there are more people like you, with a critic spoken in a constructive rather then a judgemental way.
The diplomacy section will also be updated shortly.
Thanx Silverlight