(12-16-2017, 07:35 AM)Durandal Wrote: Anyone pirating to actually make money is doing it wrong. Piracy has always been about the roleplay and the unique circumstances which arise during it.
I always heavily disagreed with that statement. Piracy is as fair source of getting money as any other way, such as bounty hunting. The difference is you earn that way slower than through mining and trading ores around. Piracy is not just for RP.
Maybe you misunderstood me. I'm not saying people will not/should not make any money from piracy. What I'm saying is that it will be an empirically slower method of making money than trading or mining every time, so if all you're interested in is the highest source of income, you should not be looking to piracy for it.
I abandoned piracy mostly because even official factions will react like lolwuts in most cases. I neither get satisfying RP encounters nor much profit most of the time, because if you're not confronted with ore traders who just want to move onward as fast as possible, you get "Kill me, it's cheaper" in all variations of lower case and grammar. There have been very few cases of interesting piracy situations, most of them in Bretonia.
I think there are 99 more satisfying ways of interaction with people, although there is a certain satisfaction of killing lolwuts that just don't want to adjust to the server environment.
I think what Sombra pointed out is a true problem for piracy. Such situations are easy to solve by blowing up the trader as requested, then fill sanction report for breaking server rules. Such behaviour is pretty much ooRP behaviour that cannot take place on the roleplay server. Maybe then, if traders would be not only shot down but also sanctioned, would think twice before doing something like that again.
@ronillon NPCs are low if player count is high hits certain number. But there were cases of abuse of cargo looting even by the players representing the NPC faction they preyed on. Yet people (including myself) still beg Staff to restore normal NPC loots. I already stated before that if a player catches another player shooting NPCs that are friendly or neutral to the former, the former have full right to fine that player or even shoot him down in accordance to the respective lines in his ID.
On the other hand, there are only few pirates that make pirate encounters somewhat enjoyable. @Backo and @-Rax- are good at it as Eliza Valdez and Uncle Willy, you often get a good laugh while you don't get pirated by much. Those guys do that for the RP, with ambition, which is why I wouldn't give them the bare minimum in those encounters either. @Vendetta and @Misfit do random things as pirates as well, one of them asked me to sing little kitty (which is unfortunate, as I didn't know that song).
Most other pirates don't give more than the minimum themselves either.
(12-16-2017, 12:38 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: I've found that the point at which piracy becomes profitable is the point where people start to become upset.
That is very good observation. Good pirate ( immersive roleplay ) would demand as much as trader would be willing to part with, including loss of ship. But players are trading to reach end goal and they get offended when someone is interrupting them.
(12-16-2017, 12:38 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: I've found that the point at which piracy becomes profitable is the point where people start to become upset.
That is very good observation. Good pirate ( immersive roleplay ) would demand as much as trader would be willing to part with, including loss of ship. But players are trading to reach end goal and they get offended when someone is interrupting them.
Which is actually hilarious because Disco has literally no end goal at all. (Unless you want to consider owning every ship as one)
I noticed that there is a very, very large difference between the reactions of the same traders. Approach them with the good old rude pirate who's unwilling to wait long and you get a "Kill me" or them just trying to fly away. Approach the same traders with a more detailed approach (partly even forcing a small but decently made up story onto them) and they will wait, listen to it and in most cases pay you even more than you demanded. (Thing is, many "normal" pirates out there seemingly ignore the profit people make with normal trades and demand up to Ore standard taxes of them and/or ignore a traders attempt to reasonably lower the tax. For example my Kishiro| has a fix limit she offers a pirate, this would be depending on cargo between 1.5 and 6 millions, quite a lot people amusingly cannot life with that sum though.)