(02-26-2019, 02:22 PM)Ash Wrote: I agree that borderline cargo should be regulated, it makes sense. Where i find this falls short in practice is that it’s not being executed very well. Rheinland is a prime example of this but not the only one. Yes, restricted cargo is opening up more RP encounters to lawfuls. But from my experience those opportunities are squandered when cops repeatedly go back to the “do or die” principle we see so often in piracy.
So i suspect the level of enjoyment of the experience for all parties tends to hover around rock bottom.
I guess my question is, if you’re not taking advantage of those opportunities to do something other than just fine people, what’s the point? Why not just pirate?
Lawfuls shouldn’t have to rely on piracy tactics to get their way. They can potentially create their own flavour of RP and bring something novel to this sort of encounter. Otherwise it’s just piracy with paperwork.
I am not sure what execution of the mentioned opportunity you expect, maybe you could elaborate more. Generally, there is nothing wrong with lawful characters enforcing laws just as there is nothing wrong with pirates wanting their money (as long as demands are reasonable). When it comes to restricted cargo or even contraband, it is up to every player and his character if he will be strict and honest cop which takes no excuses and enforce the law to the letter of it, or the understanding one which can close his eye here or there because he believes the story about poor trader which needs money for his children with deadly disease, or the corrupt one which does the same for money. Or something between those depending on situation and roleplay of the other side. All those roles are valid. Though people should not expect as granted that just because they roleplay, they are entitled to get away every time (applies both to encounter with lawfuls and unlawfuls).
(02-26-2019, 03:50 PM)SnakThree Wrote:
(02-26-2019, 10:00 AM)Laura C. Wrote:
(02-26-2019, 09:42 AM)SnakThree Wrote: Fricking restriction lists. I hate them so much. They add unnecessary fluff or silly RP where most newbies and indies can't be bothered with and get harassed by local police. You wanna bring Light Arms to Bretonia? GET A PERMIT. What a nonsense.
I asked you last time when there was talk about this but you did not reply, so I will ask again:
(12-12-2018, 04:27 PM)Laura C. Wrote: How do you propose to handle borderline stuff though? I mean, are we going to ignore roleplay (and also common sense) and pretend that it´s fine that literally every regular Joe can without any need for permission transport/trade for example heavy weaponry (armaments, munitions, military vehicles), prisoners and criminals, or stuff which is by logic or in the infocard described as "highly regulated" (nuclear devices) or "kept out of open market" (DT fuel)?
The restricted licensing (at least in case of Rheinland) was created with this logic in mind and also to create roleplay opportunities and give lawfuls more things to do. Not because "someone chose to exert their power to oppress user-friendly trading". Like I said previously, the mentioned stuff could have been put under full contraband category but that would end in complete loss of roleplay opportunity for those who do business roleplay.
That every Trader Joe that is corporate trader should already have necessary permits by corporation he is working for. Freelancers are different topic.
Well, we are talking just about the level of restriction then, not the principle. Even you mention that there are parties which should not be allowed to freely transport some types of cargo. Basically, those which cannot be trusted enough like freelancers or zoners, and of course junkers. And there are some commodities which are either faction specific or are supposed to be restricted that heavily that not even all corporations (at least not the foreign ones) are supposed to be allowed to transport them. Especially if we take into consideration inRP specifics, for example Rheinland´s protectionist tendencies influenced by the lobby of some domestic corporations.