' Wrote:It's quite alright. To be honest, I haven't been pirated alot, but I hope that corsair piracy is at least bit different from rest of sirius. Less piracy in gunboat, less 2mil or dai, and thank god for less tradelanes so we dont exactly sit on them entire day.
Ok I know this is a zoner whale thread but it's turning in to 'is this sort of pirating ok' so I'm going to post. Bit off topic but whatever. I think Cryer is in a vaguely similar situation to Zoners regarding the Corsairs.
Basically your guy pirated my Cryer for some cargo. I think that's better than hitting me for money. Basically seems like, inrp, Corsairs let Cryer alone because they're useful for them. Along with anti-outcast activities, Crete's pharmaceuticals (inrp) come from Zoner transports hauling them from Atka Research Station. Since that run isn't being made by playeres (to my knowledge), Corsairs are having to cut out the middle man and are hitting the Cryer convoys directly. I think that's basically the best way to handle the relationship. Open hostilities on Cryer doesn't do the Corsairs any favour, and they can take our money, but that just makes us poorer, and it's not like they can spend that in many shops anyway, hah. And although Cryer and Sairs might be vaguely favourable to each other, there's no way Cryer can take pharms to Crete, or Corsairs can land on Atka and buy them themselves. So without zoners running the little route, the corsairs are forced to take it from Cryer ships in space. And Zoners not running that route seems like the sort of thing that is bugging the OPG, incidentally.
Basically this is a roundabout way to say that Zoners can't play the neutrality card with groups that are by default hostile (like the corsairs) if they're not doing anything good for the Corsairs themselves. There are little routes set up in vanilla (like the atka - crete pharms run), that only zoners are in the position to do, and they are (as far as I can tell) the reason Corsairs (in vanilla) leave zoners alone. If they stop being run, and then the zoner is like 'whoaa buddy, you can't shoot me, we are neutral!' I think the corsair has a right to get a bit righteous. I mean, surely the stronger party decides if he's going to be neutral or not. I think Ivan's point is that the Zoner factions have proven their use to the Corsairs, whereas independend Zoners, on the whole, have done no such thing, and thus their usefulness must be actively caused by piracy.
No idea if the atka - crete run is profitable at all anymore, but just saying.
This is also a roundabout way for me to give Ivan kudos for his sair treatment of cryer.