i se you have a lot of concerns, let me pick them up bit by bit. I hope that things will clear up then.
Well, after I managed to read through your entire wall of text, I draw the following conclusion:
You come to Rheinland, a highly militarized house, declare that you are sent by the Order, which is some kind of ultra secret organization and impose as some ghostbusters, who stand above the laws of Rheinland.
First of all i am glad you managed to read the story which we set up. But i fear you are drawing some wrong conclusions of it.
The inquisition is a rheinland bases organisation and not sent by the order, nor we are saying that we stand above the laws of rheinland. Maybe you should get through the "wall of text" again. We have a rheinland foundation and are willing to built up a good relationship to the rheinland government.
Read this conclusion twice, please.
Done? If not, do it now.
Yes i read it multible times, and i can assure you that there is no need to fear a loss of influence. We only want to set up a harmonic rp.
The way you're approaching some unofficial faction is the worst I can imagine: (to say it with Weeds words) you come to someones house, claim to have some mighty organization there, which needn't obey the existing orders and mix up different lores.
We did not make this faction to trouble the rheinland military or take away their sphere of influence. We set up this text to give you a vision of the thoughts we had to our faction.
This will fail. There is no room in Rheinland for such a sect. And if you do not trust my words, I can come up with some really nice screenshots with you sieging planet Hamburg together with some 'Sair cruisers, attacking the Rheinland authority.
Yes i admit as we moved our vessels into rheinland we had a bad startup. There is no need for the screenshots, as i told you ingame we apologise for the bad start. Especialy with your character. And as i also said i hope you can forgive this mistake, at this time we had the concept for our faction not ready.
To make it official and i hope you will assume mine and Folterquals apology.
To make it short: You are enemies of the state. Simple as that.
I hope you dont gain your anger against our faction from our bad startup. As you can see we are trying to set up a nice concept which brings in some fun. Statements like the quoted one are not constructive and wont cause anything but frustration
Best regards
the Inquisition
EDIT:
' Wrote:Let me add something to Ventana's post:
Without diplomatic negotiation you cannot determinate the relationship to a official factions.
Additionally you have broken Rheinland law and are now hostile to to RM, therefore you have no clearance to dock at any Rheinland lawful base.
Why can't you just ask BEFORE starting such roleplay.
Well yes, we can not determinate the relationship to a official faction. But this is a wish of what we could maybe set up. This is our attitude to the rheinland government at the moment, WE see them as friendly.
And the idea came up while playing, so we started to rp the ideas we had. As you can see we are willing to do our best to coorporate with everyone.
Of course I am influenced by our first meeting. The first impression is the most important, do not forget that. I will always let my character have some special hatred on you because of that. Regardless my characters opinion on you, I told you MY ooRP opinion also with my post. Shall I bring up some points?
-> Order Caps in Rheinland
No! Never ever. You will be asked once to leave. If you don't comply, your Order cap will get blasted. Afterwards we will add you to our nice KoS list. Is this something you are working for? I guess not. Use Rheinland civilian stuff.
-> Rheinland Military authority is law
Important point. If you fail here... no fun for you anymore. The Rheinwehr and MND authority is absolute. Why do you think we need some private ghostbusters?
-> Nom-Noms in Rheinland
The Nom-Noms are no real threat for us. The Wilde are and we handle it.
-> general approach
I was pissed ooRP today because of your behavior. Ask first, act afterwards. What you did was: act, annoy, annoy more, close to your destruction and then state something afterwards.
well it took you entire day to leave.. and it was only after i explain in PM that your way is wrong.. you do not come into someones house and imposing yourself upon them. My orders were clear and it was to blow you to little bits, but i gave you a chance to leave, which i am happy you took. And as Dragon said you cannot determine anything about official factions and at this moment you are hostile to RM, if i see you in Rheinland again i will not be as kind.
' Wrote:Just what we need, more carriers. Get another ship dude, seriously - the Carrier is, in-RP, one of the most expensive and time consuming craft to construct within the order fleet, they take a huge amount of crew to operate, and there are not supposed to be that many in service.
We certainly do not go around handing out carriers to fancy businessmen just because they say they have some crackpot plan to wipe out the nomads. The admins may disagree with the restriction of ships by factions, but as far as I'm concerned if your RP doesnt have you as an officer in the Order for several years, you arent getting command of a carrier.
Further, you dont mix order and outcasts, ever. We're allied with their worst enemy, and not on particularly friendly terms with the Outcasts anyhow.
Your RP starts in rheinland, make use of rheinland civilian and low-end military equipment for the bulk of your forces. You -might- convince us to let you use a few order fighters/bombers and a gunboat or cruiser as a command ship, but nothing beyond that.
Hello and thank you for your opinion,
as you can read above the concerns with the borderworld ships were solved. We agree that it would not fit the shiplist to fly this vessels.
When it comes to the carrier, i must say that there will be only one in the future. And its supposed to be played as a base of operations for the inquisition in the munich system. I am a very calm person and a fair man when it comes to a fight. There are no intensions to use it in a "capwhore" way. And the date of the deal lies several years in the past in a time where all help was needed to stop the aliens from overwhelming mankind.
I must say i understand your wish for limiting some ships to factions, but i ask you to think about the people who want to set up somthing different. Like us at the moment. We would not have a chance to play our role as we think it would fit. Again i assure you there will be no "capwhoring"
On one of my Outcasts I had an interesting chat with an Order cruiser of the Inquisition. Folterqual, I believe it was. This was in the Sigmas and there were Keepers about, before anyone goes loco. The Inquisition cruiser had two friends in the system who were fighting the two Keepers, plus one trial nomad. The trial nomad died, the inquisition pilots died, at no point did the cruiser pilot attempt to intervene. He preferred instead to engage in quite a long session of roleplay with my character, and when I made it quite apparent that he could not catch me, he did not throw a hissy fit, but assured me that in time I would face his torturers.
He even specified which tortures I'd face, which amused me to no end! His roleplay, while it held certain grammatical errors, was sound. He accepted a correction I offered with humility that honestly surprised me.
Not a bad idea... however... yeah... outcast stuff :S
Edit: Ah, fixed.
So, with the person above me, you should put where corsairs are on your diplomacy. Everyone has corsairs/outcasts on their diplomacy, to show which side they prefer...
Well, it looks like there's been several changes to the first post as a lot of the comments I see don't seem relevant at present (mainly ship use).
That being said, I like the general idea. I'd love to see some Order-esque activity somewhere. Wilde-wise, I've only met the Order a couple times, and mostly it's been Reavengitair. If any house needs something like this, it's logically Rheinland. With that in mind, I'd suggest smaller ship usage. The Carrier has come across as having a rather poor reputation and using them in Rheinland isn't going to win you any support. RP-wise, perhaps write that you have one, but it's off doing something elsewhere and you're just based from it? I think mostly fighter craft would work best anyway as they're easier to sneak around. Some gunboats aren't a problem either.
From the sounds of the thread, the authorities aren't too pleased with things, which could be an issue. Though being hostile may not be an issue as you could treat those orders as being from still infested RM types perhaps? That opens the door for interesting RP with the super secret research places, too. Working with the Bundschuh may be a good approach at this point as they assisted the Order in SP and all. Otherwise, I'm not sure the Junkers would like big ships poking around Kreuzberg (it's highly suspicious) and the LWB is currently unfriendly with the Order
' Wrote:Of course I am influenced by our first meeting. The first impression is the most important, do not forget that. I will always let my character have some special hatred on you because of that. Regardless my characters opinion on you, I told you MY ooRP opinion also with my post. Shall I bring up some points?
-> Order Caps in Rheinland
No! Never ever. You will be asked once to leave. If you don't comply, your Order cap will get blasted. Afterwards we will add you to our nice KoS list. Is this something you are working for? I guess not. Use Rheinland civilian stuff.
-> Rheinland Military authority is law
Important point. If you fail here... no fun for you anymore. The Rheinwehr and MND authority is absolute. Why do you think we need some private ghostbusters?
-> Nom-Noms in Rheinland
The Nom-Noms are no real threat for us. The Wilde are and we handle it.
-> general approach
I was pissed ooRP today because of your behavior. Ask first, act afterwards. What you did was: act, annoy, annoy more, close to your destruction and then state something afterwards.
More?
Even better regards
a concerned Rheinwehr officer
Hello again and thank you for staying on the ball,
i see there is a heavy blockade coming from you. Again i will take you concerns and try to clear things up.
-> Order Caps in Rheinland
No! Never ever. You will be asked once to leave. If you don't comply, your Order cap will get blasted. Afterwards we will add you to our nice KoS list. Is this something you are working for? I guess not. Use Rheinland civilian stuff.
As said above it will only be a "base" for our oporations. It wont be near any civil tradelane or planet. We plan to do some RP convoying to the Hexenhammer as a supplydelivery. And of course forming the future for Wilhelm von Hasburg, maybe he finds out what happened to his family.
-> Rheinland Military authority is law
Important point. If you fail here... no fun for you anymore. The Rheinwehr and MND authority is absolute. Why do you think we need some private ghostbusters?
I dont know why we fail here, as said we are willing to coorporate with the rheinland factions. Its true that we didnt obay your orders right after you told them to us, but just for the reson to tell you somthing about our background and establish a relationship.
-> Nom-Noms in Rheinland
The Nom-Noms are no real threat for us. The Wilde are and we handle it.
Yes of course you can handle it alone as a faction. But i think this is not the point, its about a nice rp which can result out of multible factions. Sure you could bring away your toxic waste with you cuisers and battleships, but you have the ALG which does it. And we dont even want to take this interesting task away from you. We just having the same goals with it.
-> general approach
I was pissed ooRP today because of your behavior. Ask first, act afterwards. What you did was: act, annoy, annoy more, close to your destruction and then state something afterwards.
I think you hint at our meeting near new berlin. You told me that you maxed your weapon power and were about to engage me. For me as a inquisitor i was astonished that you want to attack me. So i halted my engines and startet a conversation with you asking why you want to destroy me. As i was about to explain that i am no enemy to you, you damaged my hull and i decided to move away.
Afterwards i tried to talk to you oorp to clear things up (as i tried multible times befor and since then)
More?
Even better regards
a concerned Rheinwehr officer
I hope we can clean up all the concerns you have and put away the guns.
Best regards
the Inquisition
EDIT:
' Wrote:you put outcast on the diplomacy stuff, but just out of curiosity.. why not corsairs or any other pirate faction?
Thank you for your hint, we will discuss this. But mainly we have nothing to do with the corairs yet. I see they are allies of the order but that is no reason for us to take them as allies to. But we will think over some more diplomatic relations.
EDIT2:
' Wrote:I wish the inquisition all the best.
ArChanum told me about your conversation, i am happy to see that there are also people who enjoyed a meeting with us.