Sarissa.

[Desmond.]

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Seriously, why is this medium battleship longer than the supposed dreadnaught that replaces it on the front lines?

Now think about how many Maltese players own Sarissas, and how many own Ranseurs (almost all). It's about a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio, possibly higher, as most players in Sarissas will be ditching them ASAP for Ranseurs as soon as they can afford them. There's simply no incentive to use the Sarissa in serious play.

Any chance of a fix for this? Thanks in advance for the consideration.

Battleship size comparison: Link.

[Knjaz]

Because it's balanced towards Kronos. :crazy:

Wait... it's the other way around. I choose cookie then.

[HuggieSunrise]

See the topic description.

Seriously, why is this medium battleship longer than the supposed dreadnaught that replaces it on the front lines?

Now think about how many Maltese players own Sarissas, and how many own Ranseurs (almost all). It's about a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio, possibly higher, as most players in Sarissas will be ditching them ASAP for Ranseurs as soon as they can afford them. There's simply no incentive to use the Sarissa in serious play.

Any chance of a fix for this? Thanks in advance for the consideration.

Battleship size comparison: Link.

I have and will continue to out manuver and destroy legates valors and ranseurs in my sarrisa. ... I mean even before turret steering was implemented.

the most important part of flying a cap is awareness. sarissa turns like a dream.

[Desmond.]

Well, the post has been up for over a week now, and the poll's results seem to be very clear - Cookies are popular.

One thing that also stands out is the lack of a vote stating the Sarissa is correctly balanced. As Huggie pointed out the ship does turn very well, but its size still means that you're getting hit often, no matter what you do.

In short, balance team, please consider at least a size reduction for this ship. Even 20% would be sufficient (would only be slightly smaller than the Ranseur, as that ship already seems to be smaller than Sarissa.)

[Knjaz]

In short, balance team, please consider at least a size reduction for this ship. Even 20% would be sufficient (would only be slightly smaller than the Ranseur, as that ship already seems to be smaller than Sarissa.)

Thing is, this... subject has been mentioned countless times. When I, (relatively recently, compared to veterans), came to this server, there already were such threads about Sarissa's size.

As you can see, nothing changed. They either really consider it as an Ok. ship, or they really don't bother, or don't have resources/manpower to remake it. Or combo of any of these 3 factors.

[Jansen]

The Sarissa is awesome.
It might be big, but it turns like a gunboat. I'd rather have a big ship that turns fast then one thats a bit smaller and incredibly slow.

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[mjolnir]

It's a specific ship... medium core, medium turning, heavy size, heavy-like number of light slots.

Idea is that while Ranseur is the main battleship, Sarissa is more like a support BS.

Could probably be some 10% smaller yes.

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[Desmond.]

Another possible idea for the ship - why not give it a 33% size reduction, make it a bit shorter, cut its armor down to around 450k-500k, and make it a -battlecruiser-? I can't think of any other faction that has two dedicated battleships, so why should the Outcasts be any different? Gun count to maybe 14, since OC ships are always on the high side for gun counts, cruiser 6's in place of the BS secondaries, cruiser 7's in place of the BS prims, and battleship primaries on its current class 10 slots. Maybe the flanking guns could be primaries, and the center another class 7, if having three BS primaries is too much firepower.

It just seems, upon further reflection, that the ship's profile, speed, and medium weight philosophy would better suit it in this lighter, but still quite deadly, class. Thoughts?

[Waratah]

Just because something is bigger dosent make it more powerful.
My Ossie takes down Sarrisas daily.

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[Mímir]

Hey gravedig, but I think it's a fair discussion with one balance monkey saying that the Sarissa is a tad bit too big.

So yeah it's no secret that the Sarissa is the same size as the Ranseur, but has less armor and a smaller cargo hold - where did all that space go? There isn't even mention of fancy scanner gear etc. on the infocard, which could have been an excuse. So could we perhaps have the Sarissas cargo buffed to 1700 so we could use it as a Carrier-type support ship?

The Sarissa DOES turn like a dream, but IMO that's much less of a strength in the day and age of turretsteering, where you don't have to face your enemy head on to the same extent.

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