Alright,that topic again.The reason I bring it back is,that I yesterday saw,how idiotic and limiting admins made this ID.But back to the reason.In my eyes it can't be,that Outcast can bring their caps to everywhere in Liberty,like there were 3 Dreadnoughts and at least one Cruiser in California and New York,while the Order is not even allowed to bring a Recon Cruiser,a Cruiser build for exact that prupose into any system with a Jumpgate.If you compare that to any other faction who has a sirius wide or nearly siriuswide ZOI,you get the feeling that it was just done to show Order the middlefinger right in front of the face because,like other ID's who were even removed from the game like the Slaver ID,the Admin/person who wrote it has something against that faction.
No,Iam sorry I don't believe in conspiracities its just a circumstance what I noticed when I checked the ID's as of the first post,to see if all that Dreads and Cruisers who are floating around in Liberty have their butts covered by the rules to be there,not by that RP regulation the OC Leadership doesn't even apply or try to apply to them.But if you take a look on all the other ID's,youu see the following:
Byside the order does only the Guild Core ID have the restricton from factions with sirius wide/nearly sirius wide ZOI.ID's who have the same but haven't the restricton are:
AI ID,Corsair ID,Outcast ID,Coalition ID,K'Hara ID,Marinenachrichtendienst ID,Pirate ID to name a few just out of memory,would have to check the wiki but Iam sure there will be more.
Order cannot capsam all over Sirius Impossubru.FIX NAU!
But indeed the Recon cruiser renders useless in this scenario- I would like to see recon cruiser or Geb with a lot of cargo/hull /bats and bots/ and core and little/bad/no guns so Cloaking/Jump Device/Docking modules could be used to support Oder snub squad and ID exception to roll all over Sirius- making the ship worthless from PvP PoV but nice for the people that want to use it for RP or fleet support- adding such fun ship combined with the new stuff promoting teamplay would be nice and would give the order playerbase something to do.
Order might become not so dull faction to play because it is so boring that the officials spam Katanas
But well this wont happen- the same way that open nomad ID wont happen soon, or about that other funny topic- SCRA open ID
Addon:
Order ID was abused a lot in 4.85 but simple addon like- cannot attack anything non nomadberty/bhg unless in self defence would fix it.Same as BHG- allow only core ID to fly caps, remove the abity escort or bounty hunt on it or attacking anything that is not core direct enemy- then give them Omegas and all non-house space.I also thing that Tresher should be able to claim bounties- because pirates can pirate with cruisers as well now.
So the lolwut cap spamers would be able to capspam but wont be able to shoot- the end effect- they wont cap spam at all. I never played much Order or Core so I haven't noticed their 4.86 IDs- the players of both official factions could and should demand ID changes unless the currnet ones fit their RP it is sad if the situation is ok for them, but who cares they can use Katanas now:lol:and the core have its house hunters.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
From what I can tell, it seems like a measure to avoid Lolder cap spam that peaks from time to time, but it wasn't applied good enough and ended up hurting some of the nice RP options the players had.
That rule (also applies for the BHG ID) looks more like the good ones getting a beating near the rotten ones.
restrictions always obstruct those who use freedom to apply good RP ( or good RP from their pov ).
while i do agree that a recon cruiser should be used in liberty or elsewhere - i also remember that we wished those "spies" to be rare.
the re-opened SRPs are a good opportunity ( although an unfair one, cause it includes 500m + a SRP procedure of course ) to make use of such RP desires.
SRP does NOT necessarily mean to get a dream loadout with a spec ops ID - it can also mean the very little things, the simple things. - like being allowed to take a stock recon cruiser to maybe 3-4 additional systems for recon duty.
and i predict that - sufficient lore and RP provided - such a request has a very high chance of being approved.
' Wrote:Order cannot capsam all over Sirius Impossubru.FIX NAU!
But indeed the Recon cruiser renders useless in this scenario- I would like to see recon cruiser or Geb with a lot of cargo/hull /bats and bots/ and core and little/bad/no guns so Cloaking/Jump Device/Docking modules could be used to support Oder snub squad and ID exception to roll all over Sirius- making the ship worthless from PvP PoV but nice for the people that want to use it for RP or fleet support- adding such fun ship combined with the new stuff promoting teamplay would be nice and would give the order playerbase something to do.
Order might become not so dull faction to play because it is so boring that the officials spam Katanas
But well this wont happen- the same way that open nomad ID wont happen soon, or about that other funny topic- SCRA open ID
Addon:
Order ID was abused a lot in 4.85 but simple addon like- cannot attack anything non nomadberty/bhg unless in self defence would fix it.Same as BHG- allow only core ID to fly caps, remove the abity escort or bounty hunt on it or attacking anything that is not core direct enemy- then give them Omegas.
So the lolwut cap spamers would be able to capspam but wont be able to shoot- the end effect- they wont cap spam at all.
And now it is the OC ID which is abused to do that,so why don't they get it then,too,as in your oppionion it was super effective against Order Cap Spam...or are you one of them flying to NY and don't want to loose that option?
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