' Wrote:Probably because it would be bad for business, I'd expect.
Well, if you read about Mannheim from the rumors on the station, the entire process is uneconomical. The only reason it still survives is because the Rheinland government subsidizes the Station because it is the only source of H-Fuel in Rheinland Space. It should only make sense that they'd stop processing all the Detertium in order to export some to Kusari in order to fuel the growing need for it in Honshu.
' Wrote:8. It is said that GMG is about to sign new contract with Kishiro and ditch business with Samura. GMG gives Kishiro shipping rights in exchange of newly built gas miners to mine low density fields in Sigma 13.
Was this done?
Well, it is kind of hard to show shipping rights as a change. New Gas Miners could be added though. I'll go ahead and add it to the list though.
' Wrote:Just to say it--that was an excellent post. You did a great job elaborating a lot of information.
Thanks, I was going to post it in mod development, but I wanted some feedback first.
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[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
Well, then, do I have the permission of the 160 viewers (give or take a hundred) to post this in the Mod Development Forum? I didn't seem to get much feedback...
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[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
Quote:1. ALG and Kruger merging. It was said that Kruger and ALG just needed to sign papers and they'd be one company. It shouldn't be all that hard to implement. Just remove 1 faction, and rename another, and reassign the base owners to whichever one is remaining.
2. ALG was drafted by Rheinland to construct the next Battleship for Rheinland at what would become Dortmund Shipyard. Why is it still not a shipyard when Rheinland has five or six capital ships?
5. Kruger Minerals wanted to expand into the Sigmas in order to gain a foothold into the Gas Mining business. Where is this expansion? I'd really like to see them in Sigma-19 or maybe even a new system.
I do not agree with the proposed Kruger expansion into the Sigma systems, mainly due to political issues. It is actually said in the rumours that Kruger is banned from GMG space which is give or take 70% of the Sigma quadrant (by far the only system where they don't have any influence is Sigma-17), not to mention Kruger's supply lines to Sigma-17 would be cut by the GMG the moment they would notice expansion. And believe me, they would. Also Sigma-17 has no gas deposits.
The other point is: Kruger's entry into the Sigma's would automatically restart the 80 years war, since GMG and Rheinland are still merely at a cease fire, with the deal being that they don't see each other at all. Now Rheinland has internal matters and Liberty to worry about. It would be asking for defeat if they started to mess with the GMG as well.
If Kruger suddenly merged with ALG, it would also mean a restart of hostilities, since it's basically Kruger muscling in on GMG territory again.
In short: I don't think this is such a good idea before the tensions with Liberty end. Which they probably won't anytime soon.
Also where is it said that ALG and Kruger are pretty much one company?
Quote:4. Mannheim Station says it produces Detretium on its infocard. Why doesn't it sell it?
Probably because Deuterium would become the next equivalent of the Diamond run.. It would need serious balancing to prevent it from becoming something like that.
Also as an idea: Omega-3 is supposed to be under influence by both Bretonia and Rheinland, with both wanting to grab it as their space before the other does. That involves base construction. So far there is a BMM base there, where is a Kruger base?
Quote:Also as an idea: Omega-3 is supposed to be under influence by both Bretonia and Rheinland, with both wanting to grab it as their space before the other does. That involves base construction. So far there is a BMM base there, where is a Kruger base?
On the other side of the system, in a similar asteroid field. F6 or something.
' Wrote:I do not agree with the proposed Kruger expansion into the Sigma systems, mainly due to political issues. It is actually said in the rumours that Kruger is banned from GMG space which is give or take 70% of the Sigma quadrant (by far the only system where they don't have any influence is Sigma-17), not to mention Kruger's supply lines to Sigma-17 would be cut by the GMG the moment they would notice expansion. And believe me, they would. Also Sigma-17 has no gas deposits.
The other point is: Kruger's entry into the Sigma's would automatically restart the 80 years war, since GMG and Rheinland are still merely at a cease fire, with the deal being that they don't see each other at all. Now Rheinland has internal matters and Liberty to worry about. It would be asking for defeat if they started to mess with the GMG as well.
Like I said before, I don't see this as very likely with today's politics with today's politics, but it was vanilla text, and I think it should've happened before today's politics.
' Wrote:If Kruger suddenly merged with ALG, it would also mean a restart of hostilities, since it's basically Kruger muscling in on GMG territory again.
In short: I don't think this is such a good idea before the tensions with Liberty end. Which they probably won't anytime soon.
How would this restart hostilities? ALG is consuming Kruger, not the other way around. They're already there, and out of the GMG's Zone of Influence. It is also Vanilla text...
' Wrote:Also where is it said that ALG and Kruger are pretty much one company?
Read the rumors and Essen and Dortmund Stations. It is there. Again, it is vanilla text, like most of this stuff (Only things that aren't vanilla text are proposal #'s 4, 6 & 7), and should've already happened.
' Wrote:Probably because Deuterium would become the next equivalent of the Diamond run.. It would need serious balancing to prevent it from becoming something like that.
Of course it would need balancing. It is just that it was stated by the bartender that the entire station would only operate for another year or two under Government Subsidies because the process of producing H-Fuel there made less money than it cost to run. It would make more sense to just sell the Detretium than go through the entire process of extracting the Hydrogen into H-Fuel mainly because of the need for it. If it was given something like a 500 credit profit, then it wouldn't become another Diamond run.
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[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
' Wrote:So, the Gaians have to be everywhere Planetform goes? If I'm not mistaken, they can't touch California Minor. Planetform is independent from the Gaians, and, in fact, dislikes them greatly. Gaians don't dictate where Planetform can go. To say that would be like saying that the LWB dictates where Synth can go. Liberty already contacted Planetform before the Nomad Wars to Terraform it, but Planetform postponed it due to the increasing pirate activity. With the increased patrols, what is really stopping Planetform from doing it now?
The point that was being made is that because the Gaians are opposed to the terraforming of any planet, and thus opposed to Planetform, they would do whatever they can to stop them, even following them halfway across Sirius if necessary.
For that matter, last I checked the increased patrols haven't really slowed the pirates down yet. Rogues, Unioners, and Xenos still show up in the area quite frequently. Adding the Gaians to the mix would only make things more confusing there. (Although, it would be interesting to see a free-for-all between these groups, with a Planetform convoy as the spoils. Maybe even have ships from Rheinland and Liberty show up to defend the Planetform ships. Talk about tense...)
For that matter, the current political situation didn't happen overnight. Tensions have been building between various groups for quite some time. In the case of Kusari and Bretonia, these tensions erupted into a full scale war, though that has since worked itself to a standoff of sorts.
Regarding Kruger and ALG, just because they were all but done with the deal doesn't mean that somebody couldn't back out late in the process. Take the following scenario for example: Kruger and ALG announce they are in talks regarding a merger. This upsets the GMG because of the treaty signed at the end of the 80-years war. They make it clear that if the merger goes through, they will consider the treaty as being breached and will forcibly eject ALG/Kruger from the Sigma sector. Kruger backs out of the deal in order to prevent the looming conflict. The deal falls through.
' Wrote:The point that was being made is that because the Gaians are opposed to the terraforming of any planet, and thus opposed to Planetform, they would do whatever they can to stop them, even following them halfway across Sirius if necessary.
For that matter, last I checked the increased patrols haven't really slowed the pirates down yet. Rogues, Unioners, and Xenos still show up in the area quite frequently. Adding the Gaians to the mix would only make things more confusing there. (Although, it would be interesting to see a free-for-all between these groups, with a Planetform convoy as the spoils. Maybe even have ships from Rheinland and Liberty show up to defend the Planetform ships. Talk about tense...)
My problems with this is that the Gaians have a limited ZoI, and are unable to go to the places Planetform can. Just because they're committed to destroying Planetform doesn't mean they follow them everywhere, as is shown by their complete lack of presence around California Minor and Planet Pittsburgh. Why would they want to, anyway? They're Bretonians above all, and if they can't control Terraforming in nearby Edinburgh or stop Terraforming Gas production on Birmingham in Manchester, why would they try to stretch themselves further into Liberty? Not only this, but even if they wanted to, how could they break through the Lane Hackers and Liberty Rogues in the Independent Wolds? Even though they aren't enemies, being allied to the Corsairs puts them under great suspicion, and they wouldn't be trusted by the Rogues or Hackers to keep forces anywhere near Liberty.
' Wrote:For that matter, the current political situation didn't happen overnight. Tensions have been building between various groups for quite some time. In the case of Kusari and Bretonia, these tensions erupted into a full scale war, though that has since worked itself to a standoff of sorts.
Regarding Kruger and ALG, just because they were all but done with the deal doesn't mean that somebody couldn't back out late in the process. Take the following scenario for example: Kruger and ALG announce they are in talks regarding a merger. This upsets the GMG because of the treaty signed at the end of the 80-years war. They make it clear that if the merger goes through, they will consider the treaty as being breached and will forcibly eject ALG/Kruger from the Sigma sector. Kruger backs out of the deal in order to prevent the looming conflict. The deal falls through.
Just my two cents on these.
You're right, today's politics were made over the course of six years, but there were politics before that which were never brought into consideration. Good point with the GMG, I never thought of that. It seems very unlikely, as Kruger is in BIG TROUBLE. With new mining stations in Omega-11, Omega-7, and Omega-3, Daumann is rapidly outdoing them, and they were in major deficits from the 80-years war because they invested loads of money into Rheinland's War Effort. They would never back out of such a deal. The GMG also had ample time to say "Oi! This is blasphemy!" when the negotiations were in place and make the correct revisions. Personally, though, I'd like to see either the merger or some news about it in the mods.
And thank you for your cents, I wanted feedback.
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.