(06-27-2018, 10:05 PM)Shaggy Wrote: I've not long come back to disco, and i'm aware lot's of things have changed. But I come into Coronado to fly through and one of the =CR= tagged pilots decided it was a good idea to write OORP in local, I replied to him via green just informing him it was OORP what he done.
[27.06.2018 21:00:53] Death: =CR=, was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[27.06.2018 21:02:25] 2018-06-27 21:02:26 SMT
[27.06.2018 21:02:25] =CR=,: sorry poseidon i aint got time to play
[27.06.2018 21:02:35] 2018-06-27 21:02:36 SMT
[27.06.2018 21:02:35] =CR=,: please behave will you =D
[27.06.2018 21:03:27] 2018-06-27 21:03:28 SMT
[27.06.2018 21:03:27] Wilde.: // Mate, just so you know that is completely OORP
what is you complain? when you led CR it was no different. I understand that you are upset with shooter, but that's not the reason to like... post daily CR logs in feedback.
Daily???? You do make me laugh, I haven't played in like 4 months and it was my 1st day back ingame yesterday and I'm aware it was a new player and Shooter has me blocked on everything so the only way I could bring it up is via feedback. I looked on skype and discord for other CR members but I haven't been around t o know who was still in the faction or not.
(06-28-2018, 02:25 PM)TheShooter36 Wrote: Shaggy, if you provide logs, at least provide EXACT names of =CR= ships even if you dont want to disclose your wilde char. I dont even know how you are considered decent enough to be a wilde but it appears you:
A) lack decency and respect towards factions and their leaders, their efforts and their members aka manners
B) complaining with various subtle logs that possibly a newbie's mistake and not even giving the names in incidents
How do you expect me to magically find who did ooRP in local and take precautions if you dont give me names?
I would but that would be trial by forum so no thank you.
(06-28-2018, 02:36 PM)Azugon Wrote: While it was bad by me to be ooRP in local chat, i apologized a short while after in PM. Nice of you to leave that out in the logs. This incident was a sole exception, due to me being busy. I am new and still learning. It won't happen again!
(06-27-2018, 10:05 PM)Shaggy Wrote: I've not long come back to disco, and i'm aware lot's of things have changed. But I come into Coronado to fly through and one of the =CR= tagged pilots decided it was a good idea to write OORP in local, I replied to him via green just informing him it was OORP what he done.
[27.06.2018 21:00:53] Death: =CR=, was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[27.06.2018 21:02:25] 2018-06-27 21:02:26 SMT
[27.06.2018 21:02:25] =CR=,: sorry poseidon i aint got time to play
[27.06.2018 21:02:35] 2018-06-27 21:02:36 SMT
[27.06.2018 21:02:35] =CR=,: please behave will you =D
[27.06.2018 21:03:27] 2018-06-27 21:03:28 SMT
[27.06.2018 21:03:27] Wilde.: // Mate, just so you know that is completely OORP
Well done for owning your mistakes. We are all human and slip up from time to time so don't worry about it too much. Enjoy the game and stick with =CR= they are a good faction these days and will look after you.
Thank you for your feedback silverlight. We appreciate your comment and we try to live up to (or break, depending on where you look at us) the reputation.
Approaching this with an open mind, as someone who uses to fly the factionhheavily several years ago, explain to me the most recent directions CR has taken.
1. CR ceasefire with Outcasts (I've heard some buzz that goes as far as calling it an alliance?). The Colonials and Outcasts have been, or were, fierce enemies with each other for years. Not only have Outcasts and CR contended with each other for territory, but the Outcasts peddle Cardamine (which has been established as a destructive drug) committed acts of piracy and assault in the Taus and above, and crucially made the Slave industry a key factor of their economy and culture (and many Colonials/Crayterians were often liberated slaves that detested the Outcasts).
2. CR going hostile with IMG. IMG have been key allies to CR for years, helping them through thick and thin. Whilst I suppose neutrality with Outcasts could allow for this kind of thing, as they no longer share a common enemy in the Taus anymore, it still seems incredibly left-field. It's pretty much established that IMG got CR to where it is today. Also CR doesn't even have ZoI in o-3, it seems a bit silly to throw that diplomacy out the way with that in mind.
1) CR entered in a fight with the Outcasts due to IMG, as being the main reason. Later the reason moved to slavery. Now, for the Carda, CR is not against it per se, we were trying to hit the Oucasts in their economy. In the latest messages between the CR and OC it is shown that due to Outcast inability to breed, they rely on new fresh DNA, which is basically a movement of population. At the moment, inrp, we do not see it as slaves, but as volunteers to increase the population on Malta. (I know, a bit of coating) but we accepted that. Crayterian Citizens and Residents will put their differences aside as there is a new and more powerful enemy on our gates and is not represented by the Outcasts, is the Gallic Kingdom.
While both of our people are using resources against each other, we are also both fighting Gauls, with different styles. Why should we both look over the shoulder at this moment when Gallia can turn around and can basically make us both footnotes in their new history books? Would not be more logical to turn and fight the Gauls and after that threat is removed we shall see how we deal with the space issues between us. Also yes Piracy was an issue but while we were fighting against Orange Alliance and asked the Houses for support none came (except maybe Kusari during the Tau Campaign), thus now our stance changed to mostly us. As long as our people are not touched we are starting to not really care of what happens. Basically , not wasting resources in policing, while we need them to fight Gallia. (Made us a bit more selfish isn't it?)
2) CR going hostile to IMG. Ok, bare with me and will put all the reasons why.
IMG truly supported CR through the exodus and assisted us and not only us. They also gave a system to Council and assisted them in rebuilding. IMG was thus assisting the fighting against Gallia indirectly, making them part of the global Alliance against GRN. CR is a small state but is able to put together some ships and can annoy Gauls and maybe with luck score some good hits. In this war and from the allies in this war, the only one who really took the brunt of the fighting are the Bretonians and GRN is now focusing on them, giving a bit more freedom for forces like CR to move around Tau, Borderworlds and do some damage. Now, with the Southampton lost, BAF needs a new shipyard and even if we put our own to be used, BAF cannot haul their ships there for repairs or construct. The only logical option was Aland.
While the IMG has bases under GRN occupied space, we consider to offer them a mock occupation, thus making IMG safe from GRN, BAF would build the ships and CR would take the blame. This would have been under treaty that the base would return to IMG and that even more rights might have been given to IMG. Anyway, by accepting this, they would have loose the base for a while and then get it back, even increased. Thus they would remain part of the larger Alliance against Gallia and status quo would have been mantained.
Now, by refusing to do that, Bretonia will fall as they need that shipyard to survive. Military, aiding the enemy, even indirectly, makes you also the enemy. With a possible pro-Gallia IMG, CR is also forced to take action to protect itself. Bretonia must survive and continue fighting so CR can continue fighting or else we have the full GRN on us. And is not only affecting CR if Bretonia falls, but other Allies can face more GRN troops again. So the decision was taken on military reason. Once the GRN is pushed back and IMG is freed from them .... we will see. But at the moment we chose this based on military circumstances.
And again yes, we do not have ZOI, but that doesn't stop us to send inrp Ground Troops to assist.
Now that CR lost one of their main allies, who is feeding them the required stuff to keep the ships going? To my knowledge, you don't have any other big provider of things like metals.
Same for the overall economy, you lost a big import and export partner, how will that be shown in your roleplay ingame or on the forums? Going to war with someone you share 100% tech core is not really something that goes without any consequences