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Offline Yaoquizque
01-21-2013, 03:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 03:13 AM by Yaoquizque.)
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First a few words about the character background

Concordia is a woman born in Baffin. She's an experiment subject, genetically engineered to host Eris psyche.
She left Baffin, being afraid of the experiments she was the subject, and by the teachings she was taught.

Her psyche was divided, making her a quite strange individual.

She is important for the kabal that began the 'shining path', and templars are supposed to look for her, in order to bring her back in Baffin.
Yet the kabal never tried anything too harsh as Malaclypse already had an eye of them, reproaching her mother, Mnemosym, to act poorly.

Here be dragons :
Wiki entry
Some infos about the girl and the tossers who made it all
Malaclypse knew it from the beginning.
Mal-3 going ballistic at the woman.

Girl is in trouble

Let's imagine Mnemosym and her bros succeed to control a few templar orders so that they can order to get the girl and bring her back to Baffin.

The brave templars are pretty cool guys & not afraid of anything, so they go and start to hunt down the girl, ready to shoot her if she refuses to answer the Cabal's call.
Either they succeed and she is brought back to Baffin, or they fail and a bounty is put on her head by the cabal.


How that would be done

I consider to drop the character TAZ tag and to change regularly of callsign, maybe even getting a fugitive iff? The ID would stay TAZ.
We could consider to make the hunt event based, with a general area to look at. Or something else... I'm up to suggestions.

Either way, i do not expect this to be a never ending hunt. The character's ship is a kaichou. If Taz templars can't get it done, i'm sure reavers or someone would be glad to grab the cash.

Here comes our first problem. Will that be kosher rule wise to have taz ships shoot another ship with a taz id?


Mad people Wrote:
To TAZ

Well, your turn. Do you like this hunting idea? Would you like to participate? Is there something you dislike? Any idea you might have about it?

To admins

If you ever walk in this thread, could you give me your opinion concerning how doable this can be, rulewise?

To everyone else

This isn't a feedback thread, so it isn't the place for "this char sucks/this char is funny" replies.

Any suggestion, idea or will to participate to the whole thing is welcome however.
I might for example need someone to roleplay her mother as it's silly to roleplay both characters.

Cheers.

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Offline carlfatal
01-21-2013, 08:19 PM,
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I like the idea, as it brings her story forward, but i have two little thoughts:
1) Would it be possible to speak to her/to try to convince her?
2) If she gets shot by someone (TAZ or someone else), her pod should be saved and delivered back to Baffin.
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Offline Rodnas
01-22-2013, 09:28 AM,
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As i obviously file under

"To everyone else"

her is my suggestion especially if you wnat to make that thing event based- how about calling in all favours with the different factions your char has come across. They should help her hiding by giving sanctuary, misleading her hunters, openly "sending" them away or simply busting her out when caught.

So you could simply write up a list and work your way through it, getting passed along from faction to faction, until your story comes to a conclusion where hiding is no longer necessary or possible.

As for roleplaying backup: I surely won't make a good mother having no clue about Zoners and Discordian stuff, but if your char needs to get busted out or a far far away hiding place- my char ahs still a debt or 2 to pay offWink

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Offline jammi
01-22-2013, 09:34 AM,
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(01-21-2013, 03:10 AM)Yaoquizque Wrote: Here comes our first problem. Will that be kosher rule wise to have taz ships shoot another ship with a taz id?


[quote="Mad people"]
To admins

If you ever walk in this thread, could you give me your opinion concerning how doable this can be, rulewise?

Seems doable to me - Admin interference was never required during the SCRA civil war, and that was another example of a purely inRP semi-scripted event conflict.

I can't see there being any problem with this. I'll get a second opinion on the matter though.

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Offline Laura C.
01-22-2013, 01:09 PM,
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(01-22-2013, 09:28 AM)Rodnas Wrote: As i obviously file under

"To everyone else"

her is my suggestion especially if you wnat to make that thing event based- how about calling in all favours with the different factions your char has come across. They should help her hiding by giving sanctuary, misleading her hunters, openly "sending" them away or simply busting her out when caught.

So you could simply write up a list and work your way through it, getting passed along from faction to faction, until your story comes to a conclusion where hiding is no longer necessary or possible.

As for roleplaying backup: I surely won't make a good mother having no clue about Zoners and Discordian stuff, but if your char needs to get busted out or a far far away hiding place- my char ahs still a debt or 2 to pay offWink

Favours idea sounds good to me too. You can count with Laura as well Wink She told you in messages that she now lives in Okinawa, what is - in house space scale - far away place good to hide. As for Concordia´s mother, that should be probably somebody with proper knowledge about Discordians, what unfortunately I´m not.

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Offline Omicron
01-22-2013, 04:10 PM,
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If TAZ deems it worthy to shoot down their own to accomplish some specific RP purpose, both sides asking allies/neutrals for hideout/asylum or assistance in the hunt could stir situation up upon discovery by the other side - generate more role play.

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Offline Jeremy Hunter
01-22-2013, 04:21 PM,
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I like the idea, but would there be a way to keep her out of mommy's hands?

(Pury curious, internet stuffs taken away as you can see from my notice thread *lurks* )

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Offline Gypsie
01-22-2013, 04:25 PM,
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Hi Yao, first of all, Kudos for the idea.
I'll be droppin my thoughts here without any specific order just because I don't want to miss anything of what I've been thinking.

* Among TAZ and other Discordians, there amount of info about her life's story and the doings of the Illuminati sect will be varied. For instance, among my characters, I believe only Gypsie the reporter scries enough among our home society to be a cadidate for 'having heard rumours' about the secret cabal, and probably hasn't heard yet about the experiment.

* Also, among those who know or have heard about all this, there will be those in favor of the Cabal's doings, and those against. Again, among my characters there are both cases, and I'll probably drop one of each into this whole thingie. If notified about this in any way, Gyp for instance would like to help Concordia, while Hela the replicant would feel very fulfilled by helping in the hunt as the Templar she is.

* Seeing how secretive all is right now, you need to open doors for us to join the story. For example, make Mnemosym gather the Templars and command them the hunt, and for the side of the ones who would cooperate with Concordia, spread rumours. I dunno, with the hunt being intensified, keeping it secret would become more difficult. Our watering holes are a perfect place to start.

* We can't chase ghosts, or do it blinded, so you will need to remind all of those who have interacted with Concordia through these years their part in the plot, so when both templars and friends of her start the hunt/search/investigation, they actually get hints and follow her steps in the different corners of Sirius where they ask. I don't mind searching for her during an RL year, I'd love to, as I've always loved TAZ RP, but as you said, this is not meant to be a dead end chase. Balance the number of people who will protect her with the number of people who will actually be helpful to her hunters.

* Callsign variations can get tricky. Remember this would be an ongoing RP event, so just seeing 'Devil's.Unicorn' on the online player list won't make me go running to that system, as it would be OoRP. If you still want to do it, I suggest you don't get too fancy with this, and leave some connection between the names, that we can realise, as difficult as it may be. As fun as it may be passing through her once or twice without noticing, after some months it can get frustrating. Remember encountering her won't mean catching her right ahead, since I know you have quite the potential to slip away from any of your hunters.

I can't think of anything else right now, but I will be following this thread and post if I come up with anything else that may be helpful. I'll be looking forward for this to start. Cheers bro.

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01-22-2013, 05:09 PM,
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Offline Yaoquizque
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(01-21-2013, 08:19 PM)carlfatal Wrote: 1) Would it be possible to speak to her/to try to convince her?

I'd rather see the whole thing as role-play orientated. There will be some pvp involved, sure, but only as a mean to make the whole thing evolve into something eventful.

(01-22-2013, 09:28 AM)Rodnas Wrote: her is my suggestion especially if you wnat to make that thing event based- how about calling in all favours with the different factions your char has come across. They should help her hiding by giving sanctuary, misleading her hunters, openly "sending" them away or simply busting her out when caught.

Well... This character never really dealt with factions. She mainly dealt with individuals. The thing is i did role-play with a lot of folks, but many of them left disco or simply moved on. It is a tad hard to make a list from this. I'd rather have them voicing they are interested in the whole thing.


(01-22-2013, 04:10 PM)Omicron Wrote: If TAZ deems it worthy to shoot down their own to accomplish some specific RP purpose, both sides asking allies/neutrals for hideout/asylum or assistance in the hunt could stir situation up upon discovery by the other side - generate more role play.

Well yes, totally.
I was considering making this since a while, but TAZ activity or my free time simply didn't allow it.

TAZ Templars never were role played extensively as an entity. I see it as an opportunity to give them something to do and extend their lore.

I believe the ones willing to get a hand on Concordia will do all they can to do so, and it does imply gathering intel, and seeking help from the various Sirian organizations they have some contact with.

In my eyes, some templars would just be puppets, chasing the girl for reasons that have nothing to do with the real goals of the Illuminati. In that regard, others organizations could just be intoxicated with propaganda in the same way, being told blatant lies.

(01-22-2013, 04:21 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: I like the idea, but would there be a way to keep her out of mommy's hands?

I'm kinda against a locked outcome. I think it would be way more fun if how the whole thing ends totally depended on the ingame and forum role-play that would happen.
So she could end up dead, locked up in the sacred sanctum or outcast from TAZ and forced to begin another life.
This is totally open in my eyes.

(01-22-2013, 04:25 PM)Gypsie Wrote: * Among TAZ and other Discordians, there amount of info about her life's story and the doings of the Illuminati sect will be varied. For instance, among my characters, I believe only Gypsie the reporter scries enough among our home society to be a cadidate for 'having heard rumours' about the secret cabal, and probably hasn't heard yet about the experiment.

I always pictured TAZ as being composed of cabals having different agendas, various ideas and priorities, but united by necessity and general beliefs.

So if you feel like role playing a char that is part of the Illuminati or a guy that has just no clue and was told "yo, chase the girl and you will get a cookie", it's just fine as you will appropriate the background story and will make the best out of it.

The more liberty people will have with the background of their chars in this event, the better.

That said, there is some rumours going on. Mal-3 knew. So does Doc Holiday. Maybe they told some folks about it, or didn't...

(01-22-2013, 04:25 PM)Gypsie Wrote: * Also, among those who know or have heard about all this, there will be those in favor of the Cabal's doings, and those against. Again, among my characters there are both cases, and I'll probably drop one of each into this whole thingie. If notified about this in any way, Gyp for instance would like to help Concordia, while Hela the replicant would feel very fulfilled by helping in the hunt as the Templar she is.

The 'Illuminati' cabal itself always was divided concerning the project. It isn't told how many they are. Some might just think the girl needs to be killed so that the goddess can be freed from this mortal envelope. Others might want to protect her or keep her in coma until she 'evolved' positively.

Others cabals might of course have others plans or opinions regarding all this.
My point is : Make your lore and integrate it! Or use the existing one and ride along with it.

People outside TAZ might also have heard about it. What about those intelligence organizations like BIS or LSF. What will they think when TAZ start to fight each other in their playground. I don't mind people metagaming to participate as long as it's not too blatant and silly like "Hurr Durr I know what was done to you and i know everything about the mean guys are after you be careful concordia!"

(01-22-2013, 04:25 PM)Gypsie Wrote: * Seeing how secretive all is right now, you need to open doors for us to join the story. For example, make Mnemosym gather the Templars and command them the hunt, and for the side of the ones who would cooperate with Concordia, spread rumours. I dunno, with the hunt being intensified, keeping it secret would become more difficult. Our watering holes are a perfect place to start.

True. I need to get some drafts about this.
If the things escalate, it will be indeed much harder to keep people's motives hidden and some bad truths might come out of mouths like amazing puking rainbows.

(01-22-2013, 04:25 PM)Gypsie Wrote: * We can't chase ghosts, or do it blinded, so you will need to remind all of those who have interacted with Concordia through these years their part in the plot, so when both templars and friends of her start the hunt/search/investigation, they actually get hints and follow her steps in the different corners of Sirius where they ask. I don't mind searching for her during an RL year, I'd love to, as I've always loved TAZ RP, but as you said, this is not meant to be a dead end chase. Balance the number of people who will protect her with the number of people who will actually be helpful to her hunters.

Aye... That part might be tricky as i have no idea actually who will be willing to do what.
But yes, the chase isn't intended to get boring and i will certainly not stay docked or move 100k up the plane while trolling in system.

The girl speaks a lot, is curious and generally tries to be friendly with anyone.
We could consider put some kind of "get flax in exchange of intel" thread, so that templars know where to go.
Thinking of which, that might actually be hilarious if someone actually made a char pretending to help her while giving intel to the ones chasing her.


(01-22-2013, 04:25 PM)Gypsie Wrote: * Callsign variations can get tricky. Remember this would be an ongoing RP event, so just seeing 'Devil's.Unicorn' on the online player list won't make me go running to that system, as it would be OoRP. If you still want to do it, I suggest you don't get too fancy with this, and leave some connection between the names, that we can realise, as difficult as it may be. As fun as it may be passing through her once or twice without noticing, after some months it can get frustrating. Remember encountering her won't mean catching her right ahead, since I know you have quite the potential to slip away from any of your hunters.

Keep in mind this is intended to be opened to everyone in the end. And people just love to metagame the online players list. I know i myself do it too often.

I'm afraid changing call-signs will be a necessity, but only after the real hunt started.

Girl is stupid anyway and i'm sure she would say hi and start to talk with the ones here to get her, thus making herself known.

tl&dr

I realized i didn't quite talk about my motives here.
The thing i kinda hate with this char is its roleplay is static. The char barely evolved since she left Baffin.

Still as silly, still as stupid.

Also she's just an hopeless mary sue : "I have a lot of friends and i can go anywhere without anything bad happening to me, and i'm stupid but it's okay because people like me, blah blah blah"
You get the Leitmotiv.

It's perhaps time to make something interesting out of her and to make the char realize not everything can be fixed by a smile.

Jammi, thanks for the view on the whole thing.

Lastly, as it kinda involves a lot TAZ, i'd like you Doc, and you Mad John, to give your opinion about this as you are... Well... Y'know... TAZ lead.

As for Mnemosym, the creepy mother, i'm afraid only a Discordian could indeed role-play her.

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