I agree with you on the Cap ships. Far too many floating about these days in Liberty. From an RP point of view it's unrealistic. Capital ships cost a fortune to build, maintain and supply, and yet sometimes it appears that Liberty especially has more capitals in its fleet than it does fighters and escorts. I understand the allure of them to some players, especially if they suck with snubs like me. However, I think a lot of players who rush to get a cap will soon find themselves wondering why, after their first encounter with a couple of good bomber pilots.
Then again, I'd rather see a LN pilot in a cap ship than some of the other vessels I've seen them flying, that are totally oorp.
Anyway, your guys are doing good. Sure you'll get problems with new guys not clear on the rules. Thats better than experienced guys trying to bend them though. One point I will make, you guys are not too good at spotting smugglers .............*cough*......
I agree with you on the Cap ships. Far too many floating about these days in Liberty. From an RP point of view it's unrealistic. Capital ships cost a fortune to build, maintain and supply, and yet sometimes it appears that Liberty especially has more capitals in its fleet than it does fighters and escorts. I understand the allure of them to some players, especially if they suck with snubs like me. However, I think a lot of players who rush to get a cap will soon find themselves wondering why, after their first encounter with a couple of good bomber pilots.
Then again, I'd rather see a LN pilot in a cap ship than some of the other vessels I've seen them flying, that are totally oorp.
Anyway, your guys are doing good. Sure you'll get problems with new guys not clear on the rules. Thats better than experienced guys trying to bend them though. One point I will make, you guys are not too good at spotting smugglers .............*cough*...... Big Grin
Thank you again for your feedback, and if you have noticed we only have a small amount of capital ships and we have RP behind them and how they became apart of the 5th Fleet, which was a good idea by a few of us. Was hard to actually come up with bio's but its worked and I like what we've done.
I must also agree, it is sad that new players will undock and see a Liberty Navy Dreadnought and be like I WANT ONE, and then after a few months off hard work buy it then realise how bad and how difficult it is to fly one effectively.
And Smugglers no just no. Damned peoples, we can only do what we can when it comes to smugglers, if you havent noticed we work alot with the LPI and mercenaries.
This is a realistic question:
Do you people enjoy fair/equal fights?
Yeah we do Cashew why is that, if you mean the Rogues coming to Liberty that is and will never be a fair and equal fight. We do not expect to be ganked by a group of pilot who harrasse and troll members and have a laugh while annoying other players. Who also shield run and also go re arm and restock. It is not a honourable fight. If you speak with some Rogue pilots they will admit that 5th enjoy RP and we give fair fights alot.
It's interesting you say you do enjoy RP and fair fights. From all my encounters with 5th players I have only enjoyed one. All other encounters (no matter if im flying a rogue or not) have been frustrating and not enjoyable at all. Your roleplay is very interesting when it comes to enemy ships on scanners, not once have I seen a 5th pilot act or RP as a Navy pilot would do in that situation. I don't expect these sort of lines to come up "Its all good over here" when it's clearly not 'All good over there'. I don't even know if you're the leader or not and frankly I couldn't care, I suggest you and your faction have some sort of think about how a pilot in a military role would act if the enemy was aiming their guns at them.
I know how these feedback threads work, I've taken "feedback" before and I've discussed it in Faction HCs. I know what is said, and I know how people react to it. But let me tell you, if you simply deny this as false and the fact you think you dont make these mistakes then people are going to be more inclined to be less fair towards your faction, not only in fights but on the forums as well. Im sure you know there is oorp bias towards factions. Let's just say you went and spoke to BAF| about trading some ships, if those players had gone up against you on other characters and had developed a bad opinion of you then you will most likely not get that deal.
If you want your faction to prosper, then you need to be more disciplined with what your capitals shoot regardless of "if it's a rogue". If they are not as experienced then perhaps you should teach them about common courtesy or even consider not allowing them to fly such powerful vessels. Don't get me wrong, I know I sound like im salty and QQing but this is genuine and you should take on board what I have to say. I couldn't give a monkeys if I get blown up by a cap, I just close the game and that's that. But there are people in powerful positions that do mind, and can make your lives a misery.
So help yourselves and have a little teamtalk. If you want to further discuss this and want me to digress in any way then feel free to PM me on skype or on the forums, or if you want to carry on in this thread then that's fine.
I also noticed you're going for Official? Good luck.
(I am not posting here on behalf of any faction)
(08-11-2015, 07:02 PM)Cashew Wrote: [ -> ]<snip>
But there are people in powerful positions that do mind, and can make your lives a misery.
Are you actually serious? Because last I recall no one here has any sort of real power,
its a mod of a game with perhaps 100 to 200 active people, and it drains by the day.
Either way, they act more Navy than anyone else out there and they are also the most active ones.
Maybe the pirates/rogues and whoever else should treat the 5th better rather than the other way around.
Sure battles can be unfair, but I've yet to see a real fair fight in discovery.
Equal numbers and ship types count for nothing.
5th is doing fine as a Navy faction, blowing up Rogue destroyers and such.
If you dislike us hammering you with Capital ships, DONT COME LOOKING FOR A FIGHT FROM US THAN.
Edit:Also, We are a "FLEET" you don't make a fleet with fighters which it seems most are getting at. Fleets are mostly made of capital class vessels.
So I have spoken with Cashew on skype and agreed with what was said. I have decided to Kill Commodore Mark Webb of and there will be an official post tomorrow. I would like to wish all the 5th pilots and the 5th guys the best of luck at official dom and staying active. Was nice flying with you all and wish you all the best of luck. Thank you for letting me be a member
~ Shaggy
You know. Just in case. Considering the things being written in the LR chat at the time this thread got bumped.
Just in case this was about today's Rogue flyings into New York and whatever (Wasn't present myself), you know, JUST IN CASE.
I would like to remind anyone from my faction that if they start opening their mouths about fairplay while referring to encounters with other factions in Liberty on their LR-, they should quickly close said mouth and reflect very hard on what happens during our usual raids.
Just my two cents, since I remember pretty okay encounters with 5th back in the day, both on liberty lawfuls and unlawfuls. But after I saw how trigger happy you were nowadays without having any slightest idea about what was going on and of all the people =LSF= had to fix everything, it's just sad.
It's a sad reality when you have to say that the best time the 5th had was when was around. Ever since then, everything went downhill for you.