Questions On Mollys

[Govedo13]

Also, the Odin is a Hessian ship. Not a SCRA ship. The SCRA are able to use them due to their diplomacy and assistance to the Red Hessians.

I am quite aware of this. The point is that this "assistance" to the red Red Hessians contains killing the people who according to the SCRA RP, SCRA players should protect from people like Hessians, like shown on the screen they protect from people like Mollys.

It may force them to RP in pursuit of a better ship.

Exactly- lame and ridiculous RP excuse to get technology.

Daumann escort ships engaged in conflict with Hessian ships:
The two sides are now equal (both combat orientated)
The SCRA are allies of the Hessians
Therefore, I imagine the SCRA would aid the Hessians

Actually it should be quite different. Daumann escort pilots are part of the working class, that should be protected by SCRA according to this:

Policy:
In spite of rumours you may hear to the contrary, we do not harm the civilian populace of Sirius unless attacked first. Our Revolution strikes at the roots of capitalism, the oppressive governments which keep their boots on the faces of every working man and woman in the universe. We are killers to a man, but we are not murderers. We are the common people, fighting for the common people.
We do not tolerate piracy, terrorism or oppression of the people. We do, however, have comrades in Rheinland, in the Bundschuh, LWB, Red Hessians and Unioners who don't quite live up to our moral standards.

Although we can't condone their criminal activity, we sympathise with their plight and their cause. We also have allies in the Order, although this is a distant relationship, and somewhat strained, due to our hostility to the Corsairs. We aid them by monitoring the movements of Nomad hosts in the Omegas. Humanity comes first, of course.

If it is too long to read it I will summarise it to you:
We hate pirates but the Red Hessian Pirates and LWB Pirates gave us technology so we help them pirating. No it seems you miss my posts. Simple thing like what Primitive said in his one line post.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Ayem]

Actually it should be quite different. Daumann escort pilots are part of the working class, that should be protected by SCRA according to this:

Daumann escort pilots are armed symbols of the corporation, who pursue the corporation's agenda through acts of force. Recently Daumann pilots attacked the IMG station in Omega7. (Edited for clarity:)They (Daumann security pilots) should not be protected by SCRA.

As to SCRA's political affiliations; do not begrudge a faction alliances that assist in its survival. Survival is the first instinct of a human. If they are willing to endanger those alliances even in part (by defending others against piracy from any source), then their ideology appears to come before their cynical self interest. An admirable trait, no?

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[Primitive]

Daumann escort pilots are armed symbols of the corporation, who pursue the corporation's agenda through acts of force. Recently Daumann pilots attacked the IMG station in Omega7. They should not be protected by SCRA.

As to SCRA's political affiliations; do not begrudge a faction alliances that assist in its survival. Survival is the first instinct of a human. If they are willing to endanger those alliances even in part (by defending others against piracy from any source), then their ideology appears to come before their cynical self interest. An admirable trait, no?

I probably failed to see when BMM was holding IMG hands ?

I guess IND is also working class...only they represent everything you hate right ?
I guess junkers are scum ,but you still use their bases right ?
I guess hessians are basically terrorists hitting on workers and such, but SUDDENLY they are also working class.

And its damn funny how their ideology is only SOMETIMES more important then their equipment.

So Mr.Bucket, your pitiful excuses are not enough. You can't explain your own roleplay or reasons, but we both know what those reasons are.

hihihihih

[Govedo13]

Daumann escort pilots are armed symbols of the corporation, who pursue the corporation's agenda through acts of force. Recently Daumann pilots attacked the IMG station in Omega7. They should not be protected by SCRA.

Daumann miner pilots as well are unarmed symbols of the corporation with need of Daumann armed escorts to protect them of the Pirates. Both miner and escort pilots are the people from the working class or you clam that the Daumann CEO pilots eagle in danger for his life to protect the miners? :lol:

Survival is the first instinct of a human.

Agreed SCRA have their own VHFs balanced for their high speed code like damage weaponry. If survuing means getting unfair PvP advantage using ships that are not balanced for the weaponry according to you for me this means :

their cynical self interest. An admirable trait, no?

No it is not admirable it is laughable and pathetic, and spits on their really nice written 200 pages long RolePlay.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Ayem]

Actually, I'm not a member of SCRA.

I am a member of DHC-
And was an indie Molly at the time of Hone's screenshot.
I have never been BMM or IMG.

The INDividual IND members are super-rich giants in the financial world. Each of their captains is walking talking Capitalism.

Our Daumann miners are punch clock employees with wages. Some are fond of their corporation, because it looks after them. Others find fault in it. That's all roleplay.

Govedo13 and Primitive, I would appreciate a civil tone when you speak of other people. Your attempts at oorp propaganda are not worth the time you spent writing them.

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[Primitive]

Govedo13 and Primitive, I would appreciate a civil tone when you speak of other people. Your attempts at oorp propaganda are not worth the time you spent writing them.

I know. No matter how right we are people always have choice to ignore it. Hell I don't know why am I stupid enough to continue such discussion when I proved my point.

I do apology if my tone was uncivil. Have a nice day Mr.Bucket.

[Govedo13]

Yea indeed I am sorry too if you feel my ton aggressive but I cannot stand how people here tent to act like hypocrites and call the black white since the simple facts prove it otherwise, I find it really strange and sad.

Since the topic is about Mollys and we gone too far away from it I would like to know about any Molly ID,rep-ninjas except the ones with bretonian companies.
I think it is quite possible to RP molly traders, and it is interesting to know about the Rep ninjas and your attitude towards that idea.
Will Rheinlanders or Libertonians allow such traders anyway like they allow junkers- with restrictions? Or they will be treated like the local common smugglers and criminals?
I mean Molly Iffed Smuggler IDed transports should work somehow.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Ayem]

The Molly ID repninjas you hostile to all lawful factions.

I used a smuggler ID and a Molly IFF while transporting Molly mined Gold Ore to Liberty. Mollies don't commit criminal acts within Liberty, but are friends with the Liberty Rogues. Also pirate line transports are (or were) illegal in Liberty, so I was careful not to get caught. Or to talk my way out of situations if I did get caught.

Sale points of Gold Ore in Rheinland may be a more acceptable destination, except that the Red Hessians hate the Rheinland corporations more than the Liberty Rogues hate the Liberty corporations (Liberty Rogues see them as prey, generally), and the Mollies are pretty much allied to the Red Hessians.

This is why I generally took my Gold Ore to New York.

edit: there is also a Gold Ore salepoint in Gallia, at Alesia station. Gallia was closed while I was a Molly, so I never considered it as a destination, but there may be possibilities there, in collaboration with Gallian organisations/smugglers.

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[Govedo13]

Great input thank you. I noticed today about the rep ninja. I guess Smuggler ID Transports with Molly IFF will do perfect job as for example the LH ones.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)