CR: Kronos and the Zephyr

[Dane Summers]

Also, what do you expect from Colonials?

to be some sort of "fight all, win all" faction?

I would expect that of every faction - otherwise "Fight all, lose all" and you wouldn't be around very long. Fight some, Win some would probably be better.

Just to kinda tl;dr my post above, make it a bit more clear...

CR| is gauging peoples opinions on the idea of...

-Buffing the Kronos to a Heavy Battleship (that it was supposed to be)

or

-Add more docking modules and cargo to the Kronos

or

-Bringing back the Zephyr to replace the Kronos, and buffing it to Aquillon similar stats

or

-Bringing back the Zephyr to replace the Kronos with no change in stats

or

-To support our current RP, removing the CR Battleship all together (since weve got a slew of awesome ships already)

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[Mao]

Are you guys serious? That piece of trash ship that looked like a goose made me sick. Kronos on the other hand looks like a battleship. Instead of changing it and affecting all the players you can just deny flying it with your group, Dane. I do agree to giving it more cargo and equipment slots and turning it into a heavy carrier but replacing it with the Zephyr is out of the question.

From a RP point of view: When CR was driven out of the Taus, the plans for the Kronos were already made and the first prototypes were already being constructed in Coronado. The CR lost one or two Zephyrs during the evac of Tau-44 and there have been minimum personnel loses. It is correct that CR lost the support of IMG and their economy met a wall in its development but don't forget that Pecos also has some resources so the economy can get back on tracks. Even more than that, CR's modus operandi was always "Launch the Vipers!" so why do you think that you guys should take a Battleship to a battle. CR BS can fulfill the task of the CR Carrier; that of a mobile base of operations.

So I only agree with buffing the Kronos a bit, giving it more slots for docking modules and more cargo but that's about it. In no way I want to see Zephyrs flying around again.

-Add more docking modules and cargo to the Kronos

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[SnakThree]

-To support our current RP, removing the CR Battleship all together (since weve got a slew of awesome ships already)

Your group can do that without developers' aid.

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[Prysin]

The Colonial Remnant IS NOT a faction with the resources to fuel and maintain a Heavy BS

a medium carrier, YES... but the CR always relied on speed and agility over brute force... now dont go all kusari and ask for a "if i see it, its dead BS"... cuz i find it insanely lame that some factions has this overall shipline "trait" and when it comes to their BS, its the polar opposite..

Take Kusari and Bretonia for example..
Snubs, Light/Heavy
Gunboats Light/Heavy
Cruiser Light/heavy
Battleship heavyght-med

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[Jayce]

So instead of re-balancing the Kronos, you'd rather bring back the ****ty Zephyr who would only work when spammed in at least 2v1 numbers because it was the ****tiest Battleship at the time, ooor bring it back and go through turret splitting, rehardpointing, rebalancing... because it doesn't make sense. If that's the case, why don't we throw out everything that doesn't make sense in this game, eh?
I hate the Zephyr, and I hate having all the time spent convincing Doom and the Devs that we're worth getting it thrown out the door because Dane wants to 1v1 Ranseurs in the 'i shoot Nyxes out of my ass' Zephyr.

I just said I'd do all that stuff. Stop cry.

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[Rommie]

I don't give a damn who does it, I can do it in a half of hour.
I don't want it to be done.

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[Govedo13]

Meh you are funny,
From PvP PoV having brutal good fighter, brutal good bomber and brutal good GB together with small and good cruiser you use Battleships? For what? 4.86 proved battleships useless, cruisers would be also useless but they kill GBs easy so they are must.
Just learn hot to use the Hydra supported by snubs and eventually Cruiser. The most clever idea is to convert Cronos in heavy battlecruiser/carrier like Geb so it would be a way more useful in all kind of situations with proper loadout&modules.
Battleships are utter useless unless you siege base.
Zeph was medicore battleship, never tested the new brick, whatever you pick better to have more energy to spam misisles on range and cerbs for bases because as I said battleships are utter useless in 4.86.

I would also cannot comment stupid stuff like "it should preform on GRN/OC BS level" because frankly CR as import does not deserve full line of ships that many of the generic factions does not have.
Sadly we wont see clear guidelines by the Dev team showing what each faction should have as ships because there are some strange stuff especially about capitals.I am in favour of all or none policy.
So ye make Hogosha Cruiser Rogue Battleship and similar or remove the existing stuff, or just allow new stuff to be added to the mod.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Jansen]

The Colonial Remnant IS NOT a faction with the resources to fuel and maintain a Heavy BS

The Outcasts or Corsairs are also no factions that would be able to do this, but they still have them, so what exactly is your point there Prysin?:P

I would also cannot comment stupid stuff like "it should preform on GRN/OC BS level" because frankly CR as import does not deserve full line of ships that many of the generic factions does not have.

The Colonial Remnant has been fully added into this mod, thats why you can see Colonial NPCs. It might have been an import in the very beginning when it was still called BSG. I also fail to see how that would have anything to do with the things they get or dont get.


Back when the update from .85 to .86 happened Linkus told us about the option to keep the remaining Zephyrs in the game, sadly this didnt happen.
I would be in favor of buffing the Kronos to what it was supposed to be, a heavy and slow BS. However the Zephyr could also be added as some kind of shared IMG/CR/Zoners exploration ship, the model is still there, so that shouldnt be much of a problem.

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[Miranda]

Zephyr is a beauty of a ship and seeing people RPing it as a battlestar would be awesome. If nothing else it's a tremendous shame to see a good model like that wasted.

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[Jayce]

I would also cannot comment stupid stuff like "it should preform on GRN/OC BS level" because frankly CR as import does not deserve full line of ships that many of the generic factions does not have.

The CR is NOT AN IMPORT. It may have been back when it was called BSG, but it's not anymore. It's been completely incorporated into the mod, and just because -you- don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't get nice things.

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