(10-10-2013, 12:26 PM)Pilip Wrote: bombers are not OP at all and caps are the undisputed Kill Everything tool. (only 2 skilled actually, and dont blame the rollback so much)
Bombers are capable of fighting everything.
So are VHFs at least.
and gunboats.
Provided you know what you are doing and/or are just simply better than the other guy.
Heck, I murdered a vhf and half a bomber with the camara just the other day.
A freighter.
How about that now?
That's what i said multiple times but the majority dont wanna hear about fair play...all they know is that ,,some stupi ad hoc noobs disturbed him while he was trying to take over the entire sirius with his magicall Roc. not OP at all....ohhh it's so unfair
(10-10-2013, 03:33 PM)Pilip Wrote: That's what i said multiple times but the majority dont wanna hear about fair play...all they know is that ,,some stupi ad hoc noobs disturbed him while he was trying to take over the entire sirius with his magicall Roc. not OP at all....ohhh it's so unfair
It was OP, but won't be anymore as snacing snubs is impossible now, like I said earlier. Snacing capitals is actually slighty harder, since you can't make sudden movements anymore, which is why .87 is the version of the Heavy bomber. IMO Medium bombers have lost their use now, as Armour, Powercore and 2 Torp slots + 1 CD slot is far more useful than speed (and possibily size).
Bombers are capable of fighting everything.
So are VHFs at least.
and gunboats.
Provided you know what you are doing and/or are just simply better than the other guy.
(10-10-2013, 01:40 PM)Dratai Wrote: Heck, I murdered a vhf and half a bomber with the camara just the other day.
A freighter.
How about that now?
Balance is just fine, Solaris turrets were made for a reason, same with Zappers. Bombers were put in to Discovery as Anti-Capital ship vessels, or anti transport, depends what you use them for. Back in 4.85, me and Three bombers solo'd Three LABCs in New York, just after taking down a Liberty Carrier. The reason they lost was simple, they weren't outfitted for Anti-Snub combat. (That and, they weren't very good at dodging SNAC's.) It depends on what you use on your ship, how good you are with your ship, and how good said bomber pilot is. No balance needed.
Vendetta ,486 and 487 solaris stuff sux, you cannot compare it with the 4.85 one.
Normal Bomber Pilot can keep 900m from Liberty Carrier armed with 27 secondary turrets without loosing shield.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
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(06-19-2016, 12:06 PM)Mao Wrote: inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.
Always the same about cap players complaining about bombers and bomber players complaining about caps. Some things never change. See, it's simple; bombers are designed to fight capitals. While capitals are designed to fight other capitals. If you want to fight bombers, you'll have to do it with a fighter or gunboat.
You won't get your hands on a ship which does good against every ship class. Blame balance.
Basically this.
Caps are designed to fight Caps, Bombers are designed to counter caps. Fighters are designed to fight fighters, and also counter bombers.
This is balance, and it works.
Caps should never fly without fighter escort, if you do, it's your own fault when you get rolled by a bomber group.
Fight smart, and win.
(Also I should note, there are cap loadouts that make a capship entirely capable of -smashing- a bomber into itty bitty little pieces already, so uhm...use those, maybe?)
We don't need some instakill weapon that makes defending against bombers absolutely skill-less.