I just dont get why cant they use borderworlds and civilian ships if they dont want to be order
Hell everyone who meets that guy will simply look at ID and IFF + ship and judge the guy by that ... Not everyone is obligated to know what does that CERBERUS| before his shipname stands for... Especially as a young unofficial faction.
I am against the usage of order stuff while not being order (but my oppinion is similiar to an onion so it doesn't matter at all )
Well I think I will be collecting these admin quotes as my signature "Collecting Admin quotes. So I gave him a Moderator one." -Moveit56 "Tractorlancer" -Jansen "I'm higher than aerelm's ping. ~Narc "Some random quote" -mwerte LWB is the bestest! ~ Moveit56 "Will you be my minion? -Mrs. Altejago No, he's mine ~Snoopy Wow, the Team's memory desk in this sig? K. I'm in ~ Dimon
Why aren't you making a core faction? The write-up sounds like a BHG Core group, the ID and lore is wide enough to include your group without making damage to the parent faction, like it seems you might be doing to (NPC) Order.
Everyone's concern about the ID thing is noted. If some people misunderstood on what "statements" I made on some logs or posts I made, it's their interpretation issue. Our faction is well RPed to explain the nature of our ways. I thank you for the suggestions again. See you in space.
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. - Sovereign
Well dude it's all about the interpretation of others... Whole RP revolves around it. If no one understands what are you trying to propose here on forums, nor will they be able to do that ingame.
Let's say I am BHG pilot and I meet resheph with order ID and IFF with CERBERUS| tag what should I do then? What would my interpretation be? Attack? Demand him to leave? or Group with him?
Confusing ... really confusing indeed you are young Padawan
Well I think I will be collecting these admin quotes as my signature "Collecting Admin quotes. So I gave him a Moderator one." -Moveit56 "Tractorlancer" -Jansen "I'm higher than aerelm's ping. ~Narc "Some random quote" -mwerte LWB is the bestest! ~ Moveit56 "Will you be my minion? -Mrs. Altejago No, he's mine ~Snoopy Wow, the Team's memory desk in this sig? K. I'm in ~ Dimon
Well I think I will be collecting these admin quotes as my signature "Collecting Admin quotes. So I gave him a Moderator one." -Moveit56 "Tractorlancer" -Jansen "I'm higher than aerelm's ping. ~Narc "Some random quote" -mwerte LWB is the bestest! ~ Moveit56 "Will you be my minion? -Mrs. Altejago No, he's mine ~Snoopy Wow, the Team's memory desk in this sig? K. I'm in ~ Dimon
Ok watched and listened, some more feedback, broken down bit by bit to the parts I think are the more problematic.
(06-22-2014, 02:20 PM)Dave.Synk Wrote: Cerberus was initially founded on the 31st of June, 816 AS by ex-BAF Commander Jack Aubrey and his fellow libertonian friend, Dr. David Tyberius Synk. Both funding an intricate new idea among the Omicron’s main law enforcers, The Order. The group was aimed towards a black-ops para-military organization which expanded the Order’s jurisdiction into their own unique ideal. To protect all borders of Sirius space from imminent threats and to keep the balance within the sector.
So far so good, "new idea" and "unique" offers promise.
Quote: Presumably this goal to be achieved, Cerberus exploited their allegiance with the Order to pursue more the mysteries and secrets of the K’Hara.
Allied to Order or part of? Precision here would help. Are you a spliter of Order outlook or some loose ally? If ally does Order know?
Quote:After Aubrey’s catastrophic death, Dave took command of Cerberus for 2 years as he slowly began to be more intrigued about this possible peace between the K’Haras and Humans. So he departed the sector far from it, in hope to find his answer over there.
Peace as a way of protecting humankind?
Quote:Cerberus had an attempt to contact the Council deep within Galia to make something similar to a Coup D’Etat in order to dismantle the Gallic government and overthrow the blood-thirsty King.
This just seems like a random out of context inclusion. Why would they have any interest in Gallic politics?
Quote:After a long period of absence, Cerberus is re-organized again and their role within Sirius will reach far beyond their initial goals. With more support and with a greater cause, Cerberus will take it’s title as Vanguards of Mankind.
Goals still not clear.
Vanguard is probably not the best word as it generally carries implications of conquest whereas you seem to be wanting to protect humankind via peace.
Quote: A precise goal to describe Cerberus is not clear since their activity is reported to be versatile and dynamic, depending on their needs and on their priorities. The ones that are presented upper are part of their agenda.
Maybe being more precise here would help.
So are you Order following the defense of mankind - using peace if necessary.
Or are you Order| with the more exterminate mentality.
Or are you not Order in any real sense?
These guys are trying to bring something new, IRP it is possible, then why not let them do what they want too, Why you showing them bullying like attitude (sorry if I said something wrong)
You can ignore reality but you can not ignore consequences of ignoring reality
1. As precised before, Cerberus was created a black-ops part of Order. Correct. In due time, because of the evolution of the RP, Cerberus began to get more and more independent ground becoming rather an ally with The Order than a part of it (subdivision etc)
2. In Cerberus' ideals, "advanced the conditions of Sirians and secure the stability withing the sector by all means" can include another resolution with a notorious mortal enemy of mankind. Cerberus believes that lack of communication and understanding of something unknown led to the war with the race. They try to see the other way around except for the common blood-baths that occured in the past (cannon lore : aka, Nomad War + other conflicts).
3. Regarding the vague definition of Cerberus' goal was more refered to their "modus operandi". They are not limited only towards classic military or research activities. They can execute infiltration activities, politics and economics. The vague definition was required, at first, to cover up most of the faction capabilities. There might be other as well depending on the situation that occurs. Clearly that vague declaration was a little mistake I assume. Let the inRP roles to be more secretive and vague and only known only within the ranks of Cerberus and on the forum the presentation should've consist of more detailed activities of what the player ooRPly can expect.
4. At the current state, we try to only be allies with Order. InRP Cerberus split from them and began to act autonomous regarding their tech productions. We could even have a neutral opinion with the Order. Why ? Because in order to achieve the goals planned, Cerberus cannot operate while being caught by the inner Omicron conflicts, depicted by old grudges(probably long forgotten) between various groups. Cerberus wishes to work around the Omicrons with the other factions because their aim is higher. They know that the threat is still coming from the K'Haras and before it came from Gallia (which had a more impelling repercusion : see the current status of taus, bretonia). Their main aim aside from trying to bring Sirius at balance is to advance the human condition with sophisticated technologies. Aka, their main idealistic goal is Evolution, a challenging RP we go for indeed.
To answer about the Order ID and IFF encounter. It depends on the RP orientation of each players. Some might enjoy more RP interactions and discover our true nature or some prefer "acta non verba" and proceed with shooting. Again I say, unfortunately, the lack of a unique ID grants us the access towards these issues and let's say, "what if" issues.
I welcome the constructive criticism, that can help me improve the detailing of this faction. I never received this amount of feedback before. Thank you again (no sarcasm this time).
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. - Sovereign