Developer Notice: Cloak Changes Trial Phase

[Alley]

I've fixed the bug that was preventing the use of ingame pm and group message system, I added checks for the commands but totally forgot about the ingame system.

The fix has been sent to Aerelm so it should be live later today.

Edit: Fix deployed.

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Alley was right.

[Trogdor]

After various suggestions from the community, cloak plugin is now adjusted so cloaked ships cannot talk in local and system chats anymore. This is only a test period to assess the impact of this change on the server gameplay and no decision is yet made. The trial phase will be running for two weeks from the time of this post and then this change will be re-discussed by the admins team to see whether we'd want to keep this change on Discovery GC or revert back to how it's been until now. Until then, use this thread for discussions, suggestions, and any possible bug reports regarding this change.

P.S: No, this does not include ammo-based cloaks. Those would have to wait for the next actual mod update.[/align]

Probably would have been better to wait until ammo based cloaks, because then you'd have more people actually dragging their cloaked ships out of the closet.

I still want to know, as I asked before the relevant thread was locked, what behavior(s) related to cloaks are undesirable to the admins? What sort of 'working as intended' state are they attempting to reach?

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[NoMe]

hello all

sorry if i am at the wrong place, but i have one thing to say about cloaking.

you know the hight price and how it is difficult to buid.

Why is it so easy to disrupt? we can't escape with it, you pay a thing 550 millions who is useless to escape!

personnaly i'm not ok with it

NoMe

[An'shur]

Yes.. cloak is useless if you want to escape. It can be well used on snubs, because it needs only 3 seconds to cloak. With cruiser.. 20 seconds, so it is about luck. But when you cloak with cruiser and missile or nova hit you after you cloak. You lose the device and you will be unable to decloak. First I thought is is bug. I lost 350 000 000 because I wasn't carefull. Never dock after this. Check your equipment after missile spam (but that is another story)
As Nomad. You have 30 seconds to cloak up on snub. I ran once with this = pure luck. In other cases I got CD'd...

So my point, idea is: Make cloak undisruptable by cruise disruptor. Add new weapon, which will be expensive = Cloak disruptor, which will be able to stop cloaking like cruise disruptor does now. No, not decloak cloaked ship

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[Highland Laddie]

Maybe using a cloak as a last-second escape isn't really the best use of the cloak, then? They're probably better used to get from point A to B undetected, or to get behind an opponent before attacking.

But I would agree that, disruptors aside, we're really lacking a good cloak detecting radar (maybe one with short range, like 3k max?), and also a jump interrupting weapon. Just put those on the wishlist.

[Mímir]

So cloaks aren't meant to be used for escape and they aren't meant to ambush people with /1 /2 rp either. Getting from A-B undetected is as easy as going above/below plane.

Does that mean that cloaks are solely meant as way for people to blow off a lot of credits and start the fight with their shields down?

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[Narcotic]

Cloak trading is the future.

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[An'shur]

But I would agree that, disruptors aside, we're really lacking a good cloak detecting radar (maybe one with short range, like 3k max?), and also a jump interrupting weapon. Just put those on the wishlist.

I would convert Spyglass scanner to cloked ship detector. It would make ships closer than 3k showing on radar, but untargtable/unclickable. They would be targetable below 1k in my idea.

Also JD interruptor... Maybe some heavy or at least primary turret on battleships. With slow, expensive and poor turning ammo launched by expensive launcher. Nothing like current cloak killing CD. This would be fine.

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[NoMe]

cloaking is the only thing serious to escape! it's not at the last second but for the large, last minute!

i know this problem with the large and small cloaking, it's the same problem, we cant cloak when attacked.

ex: without cloaking, fighter price armor include is around 20 millions, for the same ship cloaking equiped, the price is around 130 millions but the two are disruptable!

why to have a cloaking?

it is difficult we must find something but which? an exploration or sniffing cloaking who is disruptable within 3km around and one specialised in escaping who is not disrutable (the actuals cloaking could be the undisruptable)

[Zayne Carrick]

Does that mean that cloaks are solely meant as way for people to blow off a lot of credits and start the fight with their shields down?

Cloaks are for roleplay. Just like any other thing on this server.