To be honest, I flew with them on my Order for a while, a primary fleet officer Agent Commander. We got along rather well inRP however save for the fact that some of those he hired? Some didn't even engage inRP anyways when I watched. Such a case in New Berlin where they hired a FL bomber who engaged with zero RP or with the IMG battlecruiser who they magically sided with.
They do bring activity to the server yes, but its the wrong kind to be honest. And yes, the primary factions have the right to FR5 anyone they want to when they want to, how they want to. Like I merely CD'ed Moka once inRP in a LF and I got FR5'ed a day later and I took it just fine.
Here the thing and I will put it bluntly. Screw with a primary faction, expect something to happen, kill a primary faction member or attack them? Expect a FR5 when they want to; that's the point and power of the primary factions; to act as the leaders, the dispensers and if needed, as the enemies when it comes down to it.
I don't say this is killing the server, to be honest, it should of been damn well expected to happen actually. I'm not going to defend anyone but honestly, it was going to happen
There are only 5 members in the GNG, if you call it the "Large Group".
Thanks for positive feedbacks Mimir and Jack, at least there are some people who think positively about the GNG.
P.S I don't complain about getting FR5'd myself, and nobody does from my little gang. We knew what killing the Warlady would cause. And still did it.
Shot Rogues? Well, the few times I rolled with them and we met official Rogues, they official rogues instantly went into command-mode. It's their own fault if they arses get shot when they handle things in this way, they are the ones escalating things by insisting on their right to control. Sometimes, talking tough is not the best solution if you can't back it up, and great roleplay can come from that too. Official factions do not have to "win" by any means every time. Especially not when they use every opportunity they can to wave their dicks.
When I have fought against GNG, everyone in group has been going on about how they are all douchebags and how they hate them, the bane of disco and bla bla, but I never actually experienced anything to back that up. Sure, GNG are fighting dirty, they gank and they are often winning, but what faction doesn't do that in all honesty?
Seriously, I've had really nice people that I've flown with and had fun with PM me with a lot of angry stuff just because I was flying an indie ship with these guys - it's not like I acted any differently, I just caught 10 times the amount of flak from players that do the very same things themselves and didn't know I was the same guy they flew with the day before.
EDIT: The only real "problem" I see with this group is the general community attitude of logging for a win. When they see that this group is online and racking up a few kills, they log to join them, rather than log to fight them. But that's just disco player mentality.
(12-23-2014, 07:08 PM)Mímir Wrote: EDIT: The only real "problem" I see with this group is the general community attitude of logging for a win. When they see that this group is online and racking up a few kills, they log to join them, rather than log to fight them. But that's just disco player mentality.
I'm not really sure how to butter this up, so I'll just flat out tell you - you're one hundred percent wrong on this.
Well, the Colorado incident did two things, whether you admit it or not:
1. It brought people online, kudos to the KNF| for achieving that.
2. It provided a fun fight, it was a good fight.
As for the GNG, I stand by Jack Henderson (never thought I'd see this day) they do bring activity.
Won't delve into dispelling mindless arguments (inRP I'm a warlord which is bigger/better/cooler than your warlord, so attacking me = you die when you land on the first base), because you have LR- or KNF| or -|GNG as tags.
It's unfortunately that such a case is basically power playing, it's a shame that our Administrators aren't really knocking some sense into abusive official guilds. As a LR-, you're no better than a regular Rogue player. Same for KNF, GNG, RM, and any other groups. If you wanna be bossy, and you found this game to express your... bossiness... well. I'll just end this with the season well wishes. Merry Christmas to you all!
And one more thing... if you're talking about the GNG, there're only these chars active in Liberty: Tutashkhia-|GNG, Spirit.Of.Fire-|G, PrimeEvil-|G, (and one bomber with GNG tag, forgot the name as he's not really active).
When you're talking about the GNG, don't mistake them to the all unlawful indies.
P.S And thanks to whoever has some positive thoughts about us.
And those you mentioned in that group all fly with the same ID? They don't ally with rule breaking Kusari Lawfuls, going so far as to pm them to join them in attacking Liberty lawfuls? They don't spit out the barest of Engagement notices, that I wouldn't dream of calling RP? Quantity is not greater than quality. I hate that every time you guys fly, I get three or more justifiable violation reports.