(02-20-2017, 03:57 PM)Alley Wrote: Just a reminder that your application is frozen until you change your tag to something that doesn't contain the / character.
1.Don't you mean the '\'?
2.I thought that could get fixed? I mean the back end looks nice as it counts hours of activity but only the page for individual activity gets messed up in the php code, or am I wrong?
EDIT:
3.If we do change the tag would our activity and application time thus far count? Or are we gonna start from scratch and lose half of this month as activity?
yeah the \
I know where the bug is, but I literally spent several hours playing cat & mouse with your ships in phpmyadmin and in a separate, pure version of the php code.
They're here, they're not, half are here, just one. It doesn't even make sense. Escaping was already here in the initial version of the code left by Blodo. I also tried many other versions but nothing fully works. I got to a point I could have a viable summary of the faction's activity but still couldn't retrieve the individual ships, which is crazy because it does have to retrieve them in order to make the summary.
So yeah, just change it instead of leaving you perpetually frozen because the admins can't evaluate your faction. I could have Space have a look at it for the lulz, but all around this is still a pretty crazy bug.
Could you like send me some input data and maybe the code of the function that does this? I'd love to give it a look as well. I could poke you on Skype once home.
Edit: as it stands we've put a lot of work under this tag and would hate to be forced to change it
(02-20-2017, 04:08 PM)Croft Wrote: Wesker its not about the code, its about ignoring the prior roleplay done between myself, the Rat Pack and the Commune.
Which pretains what relevance to the Legion? We aren't the commune, why should we uphold a deal between you and a separate party? Claiming we knew of the deal and accepted to uphold inrp it would be powergaming.
Quote:The same RP that has existed longer than your faction has been around and has allowed us to visit Malta without taking cardamine, again before you ever showed up.
Your RP can be as old Keepers, the duration for which your RP has been about is irrelevant when you meet another party. Ezio Aquila as a character is older than your deal with the Commune, given he was a member of the Crimson Cross and has been RPd aggressively since that time. Am I asking you to respect my characters RP, bend over, and take the cardamine because its older? No. Deals with the commune wont protect you from the National Council or the Legion. Thats like the Junkers Marauders signing a deal with [RF] for trading black market munitions to Freital, then when [RHA] shows up and demand they leave with blood diamonds. They refuse, claiming the RP was "Older". Not all outcasts are the same, the legion certainly is not the Commune. Claiming we should have complete RP knowledege of that deal (which wasnt mentioned to us at all until last night mind you) and uphold it for your sake would be powergaming.
Quote:If you respected the prior RP you would've listened to Nomak and perhaps made us pay a fee but no, you butted in, gave a middle finger to everything we've done and decided that YOU are now in control. Do you understand? You faction is the toddler that sits on a checkers board and screams MY TURN.
Letting oorp feelings dictate RP? What's the point in Roleplay if everything's dealt with oorply? Why should I even bother logging in if I can't roleplay my character like a REAL unlawful? You're saying I should respect your RP and not RP in the style ive RPd an unlawful for eons simply because of a deal you made with a 3rd party?
Yes, I'm going to claim authority, yes I'm going take complete control of the situation and assert dominance. If I didn't, no, if the Legion didn't assert dominance rather and RP uniquely in that sense, we'd just be another senseless pvp OC faction listening to other people's demands because we're too afraid to grow a spine and do things our way. We aren't a senseless pvp faction, we RP differently, and aren't afraid to show off inrp or ingame.
You are not us, but we are under the same home. From what I saw from the logs, you were playing a hardass even with the Commune. Of course, all your interactions could've been interpreted as a disturbance of what dealing my faction had before you were showing up the Maltese territory. Old char or not, doesn't mean you have to come and ram into other people's business, especially when we're supposedly should be allies. (because of the ID and IFF and serving under the same Home)
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. - Sovereign
So you say you are not another senseless pvp faction? You are all RP?
Tell me then why your Legionares ignored the fact they were speaking with Nomak?
And now, you are probably thinking, "Bo, ho. What Lerdi does think who is he?" - but hey, you said you are all RP. And in RP, and technicaly Nomak and Samarran Raiders were present both technicaly and inRP before all parties here mentioned (since end of 2011?). Now,
do I need to mention how many times Samarran Raiders did defend Malta? When I say, defend Malta, I mean against whole fleets of Corsairs, Core, Order, IMG, CR in front of your planet (believe me, it was happening like my words say), where your precious cardamine grows and only there, without which, you'd not even exist. Speaking technicaly and inRP.
The history is there, and you are telling us you are RP-ing Outcasts. Then how do you explain yesterday's disrespectful inRP conversation?
It has nothing to do with code of RP or code of character. It means your "Legionares" didn't attend history classes, and they have no clue about their history. Or, they were living like cavemen and didn't go out at all. I mean, speaking of RP. So, how do you plan them to be influential party of Outcasts, if they do not know their own history?
Or, your Legionares do know their history, but they do like being disrespectful to those who saved them many times, and back stab the allies and protectors of their home? I mean, this is fine but somewhat... non logical, considering that if there was group like yours back in the day who would act like this, you'd be gone many times. Or, would suffer from very bad consequences.
(02-20-2017, 05:53 PM)PRJKTLRD Wrote: So you say you are not another senseless pvp faction? You are all RP?
Tell me then why your Legionares ignored the fact they were speaking with Nomak?
Maybe because we don't care? Maybe because we don't see you/the commune as an actual imposing figure? In order to appear imposing, you have to back up words with actions.
Quote:And now, you are probably thinking, "Bo, ho. What Lerdi does think who is he?" - but hey, you said you are all RP. And in RP, and technicaly Nomak and Samarran Raiders were present both technicaly and inRP before all parties here mentioned.
And? Just as I've said, you can be as old as discovery, doesn't mean we're going to adhere to your presence.
Quote: Now,
do I need to mention how many times Samarran Raiders did defend Malta? When I say, defend Malta, I mean against whole fleets of Corsairs, Core, Order, IMG, CR in front of your planet, where your precious cardamine grows and only there, without which, you'd not even exist. Speaking technicaly and inRP.
Ok where are these astonishing achievements in your lore or ingame? Anywhere on the forums? Doesn't mean we're going to be any less fearful of you.
Quote:The history is there, and you are telling us you are RP-ing Outcasts. Then how do you explain yesterday's disrespectful inRP conversation?
It has nothing to do with code of RP or code of character. It means your "Legionares" didn't attend history classes, and they have no clue about their history. I mean, speaking of RP. So, how do you plan them to be influential party of Outcasts, if they do not know their own history?
Aggressive RP style? Acting like an actual unlawful rather than being pacifistic? I don't remember the Outcasts to be hello kitty pillows and act all nice to everyone. Just because you wear and Outcast ID and IFF doesn't mean we're going to be any more kind to you. [RHA] was never fond of [RF] or its indies, they shot and killed them when they disrespected them.
So you're saying because of the Commune's supposed "history" that I have seen -nowhere- mind you should dictate how we RP ingame and as a faction? If you knew your history of Outcasts, you'd know that it was, and now is a rule again, that people trading to Malta must leave with cardamine. The same way people trading to crete must leave with artifacts, the same way people trading to the Hessians must leave with blood diamonds.
I don't know what "Outcast history" we are neglecting, from what I'm reading here, it sounds more like the SR/Commune's history. How much power do they have over the Maltese government again? Looking at the Maltese gov chat, it's not much.
Everyone knows this one sole fact: I never wanted Samarran Raiders or Commune in Maltese government. I was invited many times by many parties that were stepping into leadership chair. The mission of SR/ Commune was to preserve and protect leadership, whatever it was. It's called being grateful to those who accepted you. Well, until now, (speaking of being part of government). Oh and one representative is enough, didn't you see?
Now, I feel a certain dose of OORP mixing with your RP, when you write like that, you know? Especialy to this, "we do not care". I mean, come on, it's obvious. And I do not have any idea about what kind of pacificism you talk about? Our friends are Liberty Rogues and Nomads/Wild. We long time ago ended up with spreading "the orange" and bringing back fresh slaves from Niverton. And our associates are our associates, neither they are obliged to carry cardamine if they do not wish. I believe that Malta has enough of traders who do so. Therefore, if they are our associates, they are associated with Malta, and to benefit it's security and prosperity, in any way they can. You decided to use "cojones" instead of "sane mind" and shot ones associated with Malta.
"We do not care" is your choice and nobody can restrict your from that. Though, I must say, if your faction really wishes to work for "better Malta" then it should change it's mentality. If we would be "oh, where's the history, is it documented anywhere" then, what is Legion doing? They didn't even wipe milk on their "pre- moustache", considering how long the group does exist but, they have ability to boss around due to ammount of PvP aces in it but what about RP and history?
Your kind of attitude was seen before in Outcasts, and it only resulted in Outcasts failing and being split. Now, if you really want to RP a serious Outcasts faction, you should act like one and not like bunch of kiddos. Speaking of "we do not care".
You have time and chance to think about it. I said what I had.
(02-20-2017, 05:23 PM)Wesker Wrote: Letting oorp feelings dictate RP? What's the point in Roleplay if everything's dealt with oorply? Why should I even bother logging in if I can't roleplay my character like a REAL unlawful? You're saying I should respect your RP and not RP in the style ive RPd an unlawful for eons simply because of a deal you made with a 3rd party?
Yes, I'm going to claim authority, yes I'm going take complete control of the situation and assert dominance. If I didn't, no, if the Legion didn't assert dominance rather and RP uniquely in that sense, we'd just be another senseless pvp OC faction listening to other people's demands because we're too afraid to grow a spine and do things our way. We aren't a senseless pvp faction, we RP differently, and aren't afraid to show off inrp or ingame.
I'm afraid in this case Wesker, you were the third party as you say "asserting dominance" were none was needed. Disrupting other's well established RP to make yourself feel big is why I compared your faction to a toddler, quite an apt one if I do say so myself and a comparison you've given more credance to with your reply.
If you truly wish to be an RP faction then I'd suggest acknowledging others before your own, otherwise you become a senseless RP faction. This will be my final word on the matter as you clearly have no consideration of others.
That's the way to make Disco pvp disappear entirely.
Quote:[05.03.2017 19:22:19] IMG|Brawler: Let's keep it out of Java range and away from the Battleship
[05.03.2017 19:22:35] IMG|Brawler: //AWAY from Javba and no hugging. It sucks the life out of these fights
and what happens?
L\- hugs Java ( ! ) throughout the fight. I get yelled at (understandably) by my teammates. "Why should we die and play nice against a hugely superior team, while they..." and the attemp to make the fight somehow enjoyable perhaps dies right before it started. All I can say is: I tried. I instructed my people. You blew it!
Then you overpower everything - as always - with your pro-pvper, friend-group, even in the end hugging Cali to avoid giving the 2nd blue in a fight that gave you... I do not know. A lot.
Then the TS memes come with renamed channels and other idiocy. Don't you have enough from just winning every single time almost flawlessly? Isn't that enough?
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You guys are the worst to play against.
You do not even understand that your actions kill the fun of pvping right out of Disco.
I can do whatever I want, but people will not even talk to me (I tried to get on your TS to talk about it), offers to make it better are not answered, or only by snarky comments, and it is very very frustrating that way.
Interactions like today's make this game not worth playing.
All I can say is, wow, just wow, again as Jack has said, he tried to make it a good fight with no base hugging and so on but it was near impossible as it started with L\- hugging Java (makes no sense inRP by the way). While being hugely out numbered with this pro-pvper attitude you guys have going on as well as this "Oh we are flying with our friend what is the problem" the problem is this is a game and the only thing is happening is "You" guys are killing the server. We have had many people leave discovery because of the attitude behind the ships/characters of the L\- and all you guys can do is making memes, change teamspeak channels to troll your opponent and just laugh and enjoy the moment because it is fun for you to see the weaker side die within seconds. Answer me this, how is it fun for you to win a fight in a matter of minutes? How is it enjoyable for you? I can tell you this now, if this faction becomes a official say goodbye to the server, I say give it 6 months the server population will be to it's lowest and I can and will blame you guys for doing it with the sarcastic comments, the rudeness and the pathetic we are best pvpers on the server. pvp is roleplay too you must understand this. most of you are kids, learn to grow up and act like adults.Don't expect me to play against you guys again until you change your attitudes.