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Offline Lusitano
10-25-2021, 12:06 AM,
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I was expecting more for the Dunlin! Way more. Tested on single player and yes it is better on the trade lanes, i have a small test and the first version failed the first stage, and now failed on the third and last, that some how is expected for the huge size, too bad that huge size doesn't mean other thing, like more cargo and mainly more defencive firepower. Some say that the feedback of the community is important but ... it is just bla bla bla.
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Offline Fhoxi
10-25-2021, 12:07 AM,
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Thank you for the changes and all who worked on the Patch

All the changes look good

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Offline Stoner_Steve
10-25-2021, 12:18 AM,
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(10-24-2021, 11:20 PM)Alex. Wrote: BALANCE
- Fixed: Dunlin shield upgrade fixed (wasn't stacking correctly). Now has built-in dual thrusters that increase its maximum speed to 180 at the expense of slightly increased thruster energy consumption.

Love the double thruster change

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Offline Commandantt
10-25-2021, 01:27 AM,
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Our ships now ni black nice

but empty space behind pilot looks awful #ReturnOpaqueGlass and hide pilot


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Offline Binski
10-25-2021, 03:44 AM,
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The Dunlin seems more like a 'Civilian Mining Frigate', than an explorer vessel. I think factions with dedicated mining ID's, like the IMG, GMG, ALG, BMM, should get maxed mining rates on this ship, as they'd practically make a new main mining vessel in any fleet. In the end I think we'd see high cargo capacity miners out in the field more often. I hate to say it but most group mining is dead here, this ship gives a good option to the lone trader. And if you'd say, then the Dunlin might be all we ever see for trade ships, I'd reply with, then clone the ship a few times and give it a few different models, but same basic capabilities, and at least there will be more visual variety. For now though, for pirates to see Dunlin's everywhere won't be so bad, especially for those who can group pirate.

Also when it comes to all of the bomber changes of the last year, I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad. I think bombers will be the least flown ship on the server. At the same time, I suppose that means the Pirate Transport just went back to the best ship to pirate with again. Otherwise, you'll practically need a cruiser to conduct any lone piracy at all! And I say that having barely pirated at all in the last year. It still rarely feels there's enough random traffic to go pirating these days.

Bombers could use one (unique) main advantage over other ship classes that make them worth it. Yes, they still work in big groups, but the days of using a Waran to definitely get stuff done are over. They need at least one, long range, high speed torpedo option, maybe as a toss up to the shorter range ones with high ammo. I'd rather a mega torpedo that has a really decent chance of landing a hit, and take a 10 unit limit on the ammo, or even 5. Especially if a torpedo could be made to function like an area weapon and have a 1.5-2 km damage radius (so then even if you're close to the target, you may cause partial damage).

The same could be done with the Corona Beam. I'd rather a bomber with a reduced turn rate, and a nice long range high powered beam weapon. You'd have the range advantage for at least one weapon choice, but even slower turning bombers would mean fighters still maintain the definite advantage over them. In these cases though, you'd be going to the bomber class for that super heavy weapon, accepting it will be far less maneuverable, turning more like a transport (bombers are supposed to be heavy). Basically that would become the only real role for a bomber, and still allow for some reasonable lone usage. And, the long range option means us bomber guys could specialize in that as a skill.

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Offline Greylock
10-25-2021, 08:07 AM,
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(10-25-2021, 03:44 AM)Binski Wrote: a lot of unintelligent babble

Go away. You obviously don't know anything about the changes on which you are commenting. Bombers are incredibly strong. Novas have such high speed that they are nigh unflakkable. If anything, they're better for piracy than ever before.

Please do us all a favor and go back to finding yourself a life.
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Offline diamond1
10-25-2021, 08:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-25-2021, 08:12 AM by diamond1.)
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(10-25-2021, 08:07 AM)Greylock Wrote:
(10-25-2021, 03:44 AM)Binski Wrote: stuff

Go away. You obviously don't know anything about the changes on which you are commenting. Bombers are incredibly strong. Novas have such high speed that they are nigh unflakkable. If anything, they're better for piracy than ever before.

Please do us all a favor and go back to finding yourself a life.
this post made by the "I don't play the game" gang

Can't be flakkable if you can't see them when they hit. high ping gang unite

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Offline Groshyr
10-25-2021, 08:11 AM,
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I only sad that I can't use 2x EMP + 4x Energy on same projectile speed and refire, so I could pretend a bomber is the next generation fighter
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Offline Binski
10-25-2021, 09:35 AM,
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(10-25-2021, 08:07 AM)Greylock Wrote:
(10-25-2021, 03:44 AM)Binski Wrote: a lot of unintelligent babble

Go away. You obviously don't know anything about the changes on which you are commenting. Bombers are incredibly strong. Novas have such high speed that they are nigh unflakkable. If anything, they're better for piracy than ever before.

Please do us all a favor and go back to finding yourself a life.
this post made by the "I don't play the game" gang

You're right I have barely used bombers since they cut the chainguns, which pretty much took all of the fun out of using them. To me, novas needed 1500 m to even gain speed. I suppose if they go much faster it might make a difference. I'll give it a shot I guess I just don't see novas really being that effective with almost no range, against maneuvering targets, not on this server. The nova thing is just one part of it for me though.

At this point though I think you are the one with some kind of an anger problem, if this bothers you so much, I think you're the one that needs to walk away for a while. Didn't you leave years ago? It's ok, I'll be grown up enough for both of us and ignore you from now on.
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Offline Erremnart
10-25-2021, 10:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-25-2021, 10:05 AM by Erremnart.)
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Bombers already shred caps, especially when they are able to focus and kill one cap by one. You don't need a range - just dive, strafe, dump your torps/core and repeat. Unless you are facing some very competent cap player, they don't have a chance.

If anything, fighters could use some little help against bombers in my opinion.

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