Kelt, no - we don't have shipyards to repair our ships. But the fact that we go boom very often lately? Ah. Never did I saw you leading your men into victory unless in overkill. So please, learn some tactics first. That ramming strategy would be quite good if it was legal. I am dissapointed that you neglected to mention how we use to raid Minor with only 2 ships against dozen of you, all the time. Wise man remembers the victories and defeats as well, and never does he underestimates his enemy. Yesterday, you sent bombers on us first to soften us up? So predictable, but there was nothing I could with only 2 bs-es, 1 geb, 1 bc against 4 of your osirises and how many bombers? 6, 7? Heh.
Grimly - Corsairs are targets with a good reason, primary targets, not the only ones. I won't even mention that there are many of you, but everything will be explained in background story.
You've made some interesting suggestions. I shall think of it later because I hardly find time to play, write the stories and answer so many questions at the same time. People join in with their caps (more often) because they feel more safer (although that is not entirely true), and they know I constantly give suggestions and tips on tactics etc... Be that as it may, I'm sure more and more bombers will come, then you will see some pretty interesting bomber tactics I came up with. Then, I shall fly my own bomber as well, I don't run away from it. In any case, I deem that everything that happens in a battle (unstable situation in which anything might occur at any moment) is best supervised and coordinated from higher grounds - battleships in this case.
Where did it ran - Rebels who deserted has caps? Why not? They deserted with their entire crew that supports their commander. History shows it happened on more than several occasions.
Rogue hunters were publicly expelled, so did Krays. I've already explained. It's all RP, much of it was on Forum. We're multi-factional, I've already explained that as well.
I also agree with Rand Seth. He is absolutely right. But I told Krays not to dock at Order bases because of RP, just like Core prohibited us from docking at BH bases. I drew a parallel right there.
TheMillers gave me an excellent idea. Restricted terrorist ID sounds pretty interesting (but to attack with announcements only). But I'd add that we don't have to loot ships to provide a RP about our income. Terrorists in real life are mostly financed through dummy corporations of anonimous donations by a very rich and powerful individuals.
' Wrote:Heh, didn't you give the description of the nomads falling in wrong ships ?
In a sense, yes - which is why I still find the whole idea of such a collection of Order and BH ships flying together as OORP and out of canon - What next ? BHG|Core, Corsairs, and the Order banding together setting the war on hold, while fighting Apocalypse ?
I'd hate seeing that introduced into the finely crafted Discovery canon - it would ruin the continuity.
To be frank, I don't think that the Omicrons/Omega/Sigma sector needs a new unlawfull faction - and thats what the Apocalypses are, if you look at it from a RP point of view. Nothing more, nothing less.
Out of bats, Out of bots, Out of torps - Down to harsh language...
You see as a rouge, you can't maintain huge warships. Or to fly them silently unnotice. Your banned from shipyards. All in all, after this you would simply run out of h fuel, amunnition, funds and such.
Even if you can dock at zoner places from where the funds come from?
As for example, Xenos are one of the rogue factions.. disbanded by everyone, they dont even have gunboats. And its for the reason (not only possible ID abuse)
Seriously, your latest 'invasion' of gamma was the biggest capwhorefest i have ever seen, 5 BSs and a destroyer? Not exactly very appropriate i'd say, and pretty far from any form of fleet RP.
Also, seriously, get rid of those rheinland BS turrets, it is beyond weird, in the relmes of the OORP, seeing as cap tech is meant to be top of the line, expensive and -secret- not something that anyone with good rep can use.
I am doubting that any story, no matter how well written can right that, apart from being painfully OORP, and to be honest a bit annoying, you needent do it in all caps.
You have just lost all credebility in any form in my mind.
hm sadly to say, but rp story created just for blue messege chasing justification rarely gets a pass. So you better be doing something good with that background. As I see from other people expierence posting here you dont have much respect around here.
I personally mind only 2 things about the Apocalypse guys:
1. More then often ooRP in system chat.
2. They are always all in battleships(I saw one Manta once, but by it's level at the time i presume it became something bigger.)
Other then that, they're mostly good folks.
Also the ammount of battleships must be reduced(there's no way in hell that in RP 5 or more BHGBSs would just 'cut off' from the fleet. The official BHG|Core has about that ammount of BSs.. Try cutting it to 2-3)... Either that or don't have more then 1 online unless it has atleast some smaller support, like a.. BC? It's smaller after all..
' Wrote:Also, seriously, get rid of those rheinland BS turrets, it is beyond weird, in the relmes of the OORP, seeing as cap tech is meant to be top of the line, expensive and -secret- not something that anyone with good rep can use.
Actually, a lot of the BHG|Core BSs use RM BS turrets for a simple reason: BHG capguns suck, suck and suck. Even Basic BS turrets are better. And seeing as the ship itself sucks by stats, every litte advantage(like 400 more damage per turret) helps to even the battles.
Gonna be a long one, -begin "Flight of the Valkyries"
Apocalypse_Now, I for one have a loooong history with you, omega 3...spaceball_3. Yes, Yes and all that Jazz.
We've come to respect each other, eh? Yet this is "group" thing is something I do not like. You as one "rogue ship" was cool, now a fleet? If you ask some of the veterans of this community then you'd find out that throughout the years BH cap fleets have been doing close to what you guys are starting to do.
anyone remember this? I doooo! This was a final straw from things that were getting out of hand. Bounty Hunter battle cruisers were so dang thick you needed a paddle to travel through omega 41. Apoc_Now, you don't realize that many in the community can see this happening again from afar.
I respect you, though I still swear I never "set you up" and anyways you break the rules, then you break the rules. Your "fleet" might seem like they're on the same RP path as you, but my legionnaire still has yet to finish that silly RP conversation because one of yours got trigger happy, and blew me out of the sky without even a scan. (he is dang lucky as "heck" that I accepted YOUR apology, his was more of a robotic "whatever") I still feel a sour taste about that attempt in RP, I know you wouldn't of wasted power to blow up an unarmored, crazy, and little legionnaire, and you were in the conversation probably giggling as much as I.
That escapade and many other of things I have witnessed and things that I have read on our private corsair skype comms makes me feel that you should try your "rebellion" without guns for a while. See how much of your fleet stays when you go for a month or so on a non-aggressive war involving words and ideas. Sorry mate but I got to put this in bold since some of your wing may read this as well as you.
This is not a PvP server.
I would be all for you and your one ship, but really, a fleet? I don't need to repeat the 'far from freelancer factions' RP stuff that others have already stated. Last thing I want is 15,000 Mon'star wanna-bes flaoting around sirius. Only one Mon'Star can do it right, and he does it well. Only one Apocalypse can yell out the old "...the Horror" not 15, or the 5 (five now? is it 5 already?)
Your gaining momentum friend, and it ain't cool. Your going to attract every PvP, blue message hunting, cap-ship loving, pilot out there. If this gains as much momentum as it might, I'll fraken go spend a butt load of money to add another B.S. to your fleet so I can go destroy tons of people all within role play!
Seriously though, add to the many other wars that are out there, Kappa is, in my opinion, one of the worst role play places to base a fleet of that size, read some info cards on the planets, read some info on the whole bit of Kappa. I feel you are all based there for convenience, much like the olden days of the battle cruisers. Liberty/rheinland wars are going on, outcast/corsair wars are going strong, BHG|Core/ order wars, Bretonia/Kusari wars, CRIKEY I am missing a few, but there are wars everywhere!
To sum it up- I support ONE rebel battle ship, just the one Apocalypse_Now, I feel he could take his ship to inner liberty to tell them to -stick it!- and take out pirates all over in new york; run to Bretonia to aid the BAF against whomever, Attack the outcasts with the IMG! Many great possibilities! Do those things that the Core is not going to, be that "true" bounty hunter that helps all of Sirius against the Core's demands and ideals. Heck I think it would be great RP to help defend YOU with the corsair empire against a BHG assault, WOW that would be an odd story ( most unlikely too, but possible). In conclusion, be that battle ship for hire, rogue and free to work with whomever and whatever serves your final purpose, don't be that guy who gets into some raid every four hours.
Respectfully
~Rocket Mouse
/end Music.
P.S. Just kidding about joining you with another Battle Ship.
That sums it all pretty nicely. You should really get things sorted out like that Apoc Now. Get the others to fly some smaller ships and act as your support.
Well,my opinion about you guys were good at start.Actually there wasn't Apoclypse tagged ships.
It was just Apoclypse Now and Cyclop Arga.and it was fun then,sometimes you ganked us,sometimes we ganked you,with your cap 7 and 8 armors we need to bring pretty big forces to beat you.
But now,flying around with 5 BHG BS...no fun in that for anyone else then you guys.
Apoclypse,you say we can't beat you expect when overkilling,we gave you a fair fight yesterday at evening.
We were 2 Osiris 1 Corsair dreadnought and few bombers.
You had 2 cap 8 BS,2 Order carriers and 1 battlecruiser.
So in caps it was 3 against 5.
And we beat you fairly,you gotta admit that.
But you need to also think that when flying around with 4,5 BS fleet you can't expect fair battle,because you can't offer one with such fleet,and it's very hard to gather fleet which can fairly confront you guys.
So,I think this Apocalypse thing has gone to far.
Now those Kray carrier and Osiris joined you,in RP they were in Order for just few weeks,and suddenly they know everything about our Alliance with Corsairs.
So there is no real good RP background for your attacks.
And my opinion changed a lot about you guys.