Corsair and Outcast changes

[Chico]

Let me understand this then.
These are proposals or have already happened?

The Corsair ship has been made less agile and their top shield buster has been downgraded.
In order to balance the Mod (this being 'Discovery Mod Balance'), Outcast Infernos have been improved further?
Well that seems equal :crazy:

...and the Praetorian is hard to hit?
To be fair to Senor Teschy, he would certainly know, he's fought enough although I don't believe I've ever seen him miss one.

Referring to another thread somewhere on this forum, Corsairs are limited to their own ship line (which I applaud) but more and more Outcasts are using civilian ships. Specifically Eagles and Rocs.
Has anyone seen how agile those things are?

So now the Outcasts can use more agile ships with faster, arguebly more powerful weapons and the Corsairs are having theirs downgraded?

If these changes are supposed to result in balance, I am disappointed in the powers that make these descisions. Again.
*Shakes head in disbelief*

And one other thing for parties unaware, I sometimes use a Colada rather than two Tizonas on my ship (although I'm no great shakes, I know :$).

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[Enojado]

They were all made into bomber weapons, but now that bombers can't use them, the constant slow refire and 600 speed is not something most people would want to use on their fighters.

We should probably be glad that there are people around that aren't "most people" don't you think? It helps the diversity...

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[schlurbi]

The new Update is pretty damn fine, including the nerfs and buffs.

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[Alex.]

Referring to another thread somewhere on this forum, Corsairs are limited to their own ship line (which I applaud) but more and more Outcasts are using civilian ships. Specifically Eagles and Rocs.
Has anyone seen how agile those things are?

So now the Outcasts can use more agile ships with faster, arguebly more powerful weapons and the Corsairs are having theirs downgraded?

Rocs have been nerfed. Read the changelog. Eagles... I've never seen an Outcast using one.:unsure:

[schlurbi]

Actually the BW Ships the Outcasts are using are Civilian Ships.

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[mjolnir]

The colada thing was discussed both here:

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...6&hl=Colada

and on dev forum.

Note that it's actually requested by corsairs themselves.

Ad for the difference between previous version and current one, it's basically like comparing Black Widow vs Kraken. Which one is better?
Black Widow has more dps, but much more energy use, Kraken has less dps and less energy (better efficiency).
Which one is better? Hard to pick.

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[globalplayer-svk]

what about making from colada the same as is inferno?
not exactly the same little less damage for example
so corsairs will have tizona as shieldbuster and colada for mini/torpedo slot,
and outcasts have debilitators (i know, less damage, but higher speed...)
+ now more deadly inferno....

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[Andrew_Bonesovich]

Referring to another thread somewhere on this forum, Corsairs are limited to their own ship line (which I applaud) but more and more Outcasts are using civilian ships. Specifically Eagles and Rocs.
Has anyone seen how agile those things are?

So now the Outcasts can use more agile ships with faster, arguebly more powerful weapons and the Corsairs are having theirs downgraded?

Rocs have been nerfed. Read the changelog. Eagles... I've never seen an Outcast using one.

I've seen quite a lot of eagles among Outcasts. Mostly guys who came straight from PvP servers, official factions are not using them as far as I'm aware. Indeed they use Eagle just to get PvP advantage, and because they can't fly Sabres:)Sabre is a bit harder to learn to use in my opinion, which might be another reason.

I think not allowing the Outcasts to use normal Civ line wouldn't hurt anyone, except those PvPwhores though.

...and the Praetorian is hard to hit?
To be fair to Senor Teschy, he would certainly know, he's fought enough although I don't believe I've ever seen him miss one.

Praetorian might not seem so, but it is actually pretty damn hard to hit compared to other bombers. If you look at it's shape, it's quite thin, and not very big profile from any side. It wasn't the most agile bomber before, but it was agile enough to survive very long in group fights.

It was tested long ago, and Praetorian turned up to be one of the hardest to kill in chase.

Overally I think the Corsair/Outcast balance is fine. I play both sides and I can't say anything is hugely overpowered on either side. I'll have to see coladas and infernos in action, but it's been a long time since I've seen an OC with Inferno anyway.

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[... kur nubėgo?]

what about making from colada the same as is inferno?
not exactly the same little less damage for example
so corsairs will have tizona as shieldbuster and colada for mini/torpedo slot,
and outcasts have debilitators (i know, less damage, but higher speed...)
+ now more deadly inferno....

I would like this to see actually.


Anyhow Krakens > Widows.

Tizona is better vs coloda in almost eferything. DPS oh it isn't that bigger. But energy consumption for such dps.. is just. Well not worth it at all. Tizona is better vs caps (more dmg from same energy, and since coloda isn't shoot and forget like inferno is, it isnt more efficient vs caps). Tizona is better in dogfights (for same nergy reason)

Alright perhaps a minor + in 1 on 1 but agian, no fun if few guns for just few points of shield dmg sucks your powerplant that you can't shoot a thing.


Yeah corsairs asked coloda to be re-made into fighter weapon, but.. its not working. And I doubt we will be able to make everyone happy. So just.. get rid of it or remake it into torp slot gun. (perhaps something similiar to inferno, just with mini razors speed (corsairs has slower projectiles) )

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[schlurbi]

-Corsair Pilot-

Just accept it, even I accepted the Greyhound now.

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