Deaths in Combat

[supernova]

Yes, I agree, GB's are to weak...2 GB's cant even take out a Battleship...maybe not even 3!

[X-Lancer]

e.......how small is a GB is.....GB nevery going to take down a Battleship....GB is use for ANTI-FIGHTERS!!that's their job...

[fwolf]

I remember one time I was travelling from one system to another in a unlawful fighter, and one big liberty dreadnought shoted at me without any warning in New Berlin. Was a guy without a player faction tag, but he was tagged as lawful. He dont said to me leave the system, he simply shoted. Two shots and my fighter was blowed out.
Now battleships are cruising very fast and even a chase is not possible anymore, unless there are too many asteroids near. And with its weapons having a long range, it will be difficult for any other ship to escape.
Ive seem few RP in the server in the last weeks. There was only one occasion recently, in New Berlin, where I witnessed the RM talking with a IND fighter in a RP manner. But the rest, I dont see anything. People simply want to shoot at each other and thats all. Some of them like to taunt, but taunt is not enough. Some come to the forum to flame its opponents, like in the recent episode concerning the right for a pirate to use battleships against military targets. It was interesting to note in that flame war that nobody pointed out that a player corporation was also using a battleship, and such ship might not be used by civilians. Now anyone with time and pattience can buy a battleship in just two weeks, just remember SirRed that bought two battleships in quite a few time.
Yes, battleships should be nerfed. In WWII battleships were easily targetted by torpedos launched from submarines. We cant have submarines but we have bombers. I even proposed new models of bombers, its the only way to not get a situation of everybody flying taiidans and rh bombers because of the capship whoring. People should use more cruisers and destroyers if they want something big, and battleships should be used only by the most skilled capship players.

[Panzer]

Tja or as flagships...

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[kiggles]

Ok to everyone that is saying it should take 6-7 fighters and such to kill a BS that is another way of saying make BS's invincable in my opinion as it is very rare to have teams where it is 1 BS vs 7 fighters and even if that happens the player in the BS moans about it being unfair that they had so many people vs just him so it is just a really bad idea if you ask me (I know no one asked my but what ever)

As far as I can tell it is reasonably balanced as it is, we used to have 1 fighter (note fighter not bomber) taking out capships easily and now you complain that 4 fighters can kill you?

I think that fighters in groups of 4-5 is fair to kill a BS we need to stop saying in real life people let me spell this out IT IS A GAME NOT REAL LIFE do we have spaceships in real life? (and I mean combat ones no smart comments please) do we have laser weapons in real life? no in real life we fight on a planet not in systems there should be alot less comparisons to real life.

(Ok gets ready to be attacked by alot of people)

Kiggles:mellow:

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I've been mildly miffed by one-shot weapons since their implementation, oh so long ago. I remember the days when fights were a matter of who could aim better, rather than who could aim a single shot. - Virus

[Nightfall]

Kiggles is right, we don't need the capship whoring back.

And, btw, the 3 Sabres killing an Osiris... the Osiris had poor weapon loadout and no armor upgrade, also, it wasn't flown by the best capship pilot on the server either.

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[McNeo]

I voted for option 1, but if 3 comes back, please make the bombers able to regen less.

Not too little, but really, ive seen people shoot bombers makeing runs on them at point blank, and because of the distance from one end of the ship to the other, all the shots arrive at different times, meaning only one or 2 hit the bomber....with all those regens, if you have an expert bomber pilot against you, your dead. Also, these experts can dodge the fire of fighters pretty well. It should take 2 bombers with expert pilots to take down a bs.

Gunboats are maybe weak, and it is hard (but not impossible) to kill a gunboat on your own in a measly little fighter. I even got someone's sheilds down and started pounding their hull before i finally got hit by the missiles of the gunboat (and destroyer for that matter). Upgrade the hull would be good, but the weapons are fine. A good gunboat pilot with the right loadout can take 3 fighters....only just.

I dont really like capship whoring, and i only have one battleship, a single destroyer, but quite a few gunboats. The majority are fighters though:D.

[MrSns]

And, btw, the 3 Sabres killing an Osiris... the Osiris had poor weapon loadout and no armor upgrade, also, it wasn't flown by the best capship pilot on the server either.

Hehe i think that was me:PLol

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[caylith]

I still like the 3 death rule for fighters. One death...even with lowered regen capabilities will still bring out the cap-ship whoring, not to mention an explosion of bombers again.


AND...Stop complaining about your Battleships...you chose to spend the money on the damn thing. 400 mill is not that much to spend.. Stop asking for more power BS's and cheaper prices. Oh, and while you're at it, while trading for hours to buy your big bad BS, think about your RP story for having that stupid thing.

Stop whining about your capships, they don't need to be upgraded. If you want to debate about that, make another thread. This is a debate over the death rule.

[supernova]

I agree with Mcneo. If option #3 is the one they choose then bombers should be downgraded in some way, And also the GB's guns are very good right now, Not to strong and yet not to weak, But the armour needs to be upgraded.