Why do you not like player owned bases

[Stewgar]

2: Nobody, and i mean nobody who had interactions with me complained about me instantly demanding money or killing them. I like to think i give everyone equal chances at having fun before i let my guns do the talking in case i don't get paid. That doesn't apply for the minority who has a special hatred for the pirates and offers them piss poor encounters, more or less asking to get deleted for 1 hour from the system. Does that have to do anything with the PoBs? Absofückinglutely not. You or anyone else adding this matter into a whole different subject is you basically screaming from the depths of your lungs that 2+2=5. So stop it.

Good, then you have most likely received good interactions with me if you pirated me around Bretonia since I've been trading again this past month. If you have bad interactions with any transports, please let me know and I will root out who it is and figure out why they don't want to RP.

Let me tell you some ***** in case you just recently returned only to throw tantrums. With or without the bases my last piracy attempts have been so disappointing from the pirated end that i eventually gave up even trying. There's not one single effing excuse for traders not to RP (at least!!!!), insteat they give half assed replies, act like they're newbies (you know who you are, buddy(ies) ), etc etc etc.

You brought this up and want to blame me for changing the subject?

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[Lucas]

Because it was built in a place where it should not be built.

The base has been there for a year with RP to support why it's been there. Why does the base suddenly need destroyed?

I assume that'd be because the RHA came back around this time. Again, you can pretend that there is no justification inRP for this, and you can blatantly ignore the point where you can also just rally people to defend a base that is within the zoi of the biggest faction, and coincidentally enemy, of the sieging party, but that does not make the point any less valid.
It is perfectly justified for them to siege it inRP, if you like or dislike the way they went about it is something else entirely and does not matter as objectively theyve done what was asked of them - they played out their role.

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[Swifty]

Are you steven hiller by any chance?

Again, changing the subject, but no. If you have anything of substance to bring, PM me because I'm going out to cut grass and you're losing my interest here.

I've said my piece in order to stop individuals like yourself claiming we would lose people and that "without POBs = no traders = no pirates". I just wanted to put the final nail on this coffin so that people stop making a huge deal over this matter. I dont aim to please you or anyone individually. The people who gave absolute trash interactions know who they are and know exactly why they do it, they did God's work by admitting so on discord which for me is enough. Im not changing subjects, im diving them so its easier to understand that the problem here is more complex than what some people make it out to be.

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[Serpentis]

This really shows me how damn obnoxious some of you are. Trial by forums, accusations, trolling, crying, I can almost hear the screaming from over the internet how some of you bash on your keyboards over what really isn't that difficult to understand.

Onto the original topic of the thread.

I've had some good interactions with trading with bases and even RPed with a few of their owners or suppliers (this was over a year ago mind you.). And I can also admit I haven't had much experience building or maintaining a PoB at all since their creation, but I've always been interested in trying.
I think that, with all I've read the last few days, that I do think PoB's are good, if not for economy but also for RP in some cases.

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[Prysin]

If we didn't have PoBs, there's a lot of factions that would get zero activity.

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[Stewgar]

Yeah, I also remember when GC was sieging bases and nobody cared.

Because we RP'd and didn't do it to grief. Either a base had weapon platforms in our lane of smuggling, the player would threaten us back and even oorp name call, or there was an attempt to require tribute (which wasn't a lot and just to name a few). After that failed and the players declined, usually after several posts instead of just one "oh found base, you must die", that's when we sieged. So yes, it is interesting that these latest sieges have stirred up the community but those sieges didn't. See the difference?

Surprise surprise folks, I've been on both sides of the fence and know how it is before you accuse me of sour grapes.

I've had some good interactions with trading with bases and even RPed with a few of their owners or suppliers (this was over a year ago mind you.). And I can also admit I haven't had much experience building or maintaining a PoB at all since their creation, but I've always been interested in trying.
I think that, with all I've read the last few days, that I do think PoB's are good, if not for economy but also for RP in some cases.

It's a fun thing to try just once. There are changes coming that will open them up even further to use either server side and in role play. I'm not saying this because of current goings on, but I would advise that if you did want to try building one of your own, wait until after the patch. Where you build your base is important based on current factions in the area, usage of your base, and where the nearby materials are. All of those items are subject to change with the next patch. You may build a base near an ore field that won't exist or has moved. Feel free to PM me if you need more information or guides.

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[Serpentis]

It's a fun thing to try just once. There are changes coming that will open them up even further to use either server side and in role play. I'm not saying this because of current goings on, but I would advise that if you did want to try building one of your own, wait until after the patch. Where you build your base is important based on current factions in the area, usage of your base, and where the nearby materials are. All of those items are subject to change with the next patch. You may build a base near an ore field that won't exist or has moved. Feel free to PM me if you need more information or guides.

Then wait I shall, cheers for the offer, may take you up on that in the future, whenever I have an idea of why to build one.

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[Kanzler Niemann]

Yeah, I also remember when GC was sieging bases and nobody cared.

Because we RP'd and didn't do it to grief. Either a base had weapon platforms in our lane of smuggling, the player would threaten us back and even oorp name-call, or there was an attempt to require tribute (which wasn't a lot and just to name a few). After that failed and the players declined, usually after several posts instead of just one "Oh found base, you must die", that's when we sieged. So yes, it is interesting that these latest sieges have stirred up the community but those sieges didn't. See the difference?

Ah yes, that one base in Honshu (Hiyo Cloud) somewhere far far away from Cardamine trade routes got sieged, why? Because it was owned partially by Couden. Also, the other base in again Honshu in front of Yukawa Shipyard didn't have even weapon platforms. However, GC also has sieged a pob that didn't really bother anyone until the system has been shrunk and it has ended up in the cloud that could have technically bothered in your trade routes, however, somebody with a mousepad could've done so without the pob being there. Anyways, as I checked for any declaration threads regarding Gen'an GC to set up an argument, I've found only one, as this example doesn't set a big difference from other RHA siege declaration threads. It also contains three sentences that end with basically "Oh found your base, you must die".

Considering the current attitude of pob builders and in general it is no big surprise that certain bases get sieged when people find out about them. I also find it amusing that people claim that the sieging party has not attempted to RP before the siege and it always comes into my mind, have you? During my long time of membership in the RHA, I've come across several of these bases, I will not deny that we haven't sieged bases without oorp reasons, for example, both previous Kruger bases in Omega-7, Schwermetallhandel (my own pob that we have build up and sold later on to Kruger), and many others even our own base (insert meme here). I'm pretty sure that it has been written somewhere here among all the tears that people should accept that somebody will destroy the things they've built. However, certain can't deal with their pobs being rejected from certain areas and have to plant troll pobs all over the place, (insert Sigma incident here).

Now look what you've done, you made me post a wall of text.

Tl;dr: Get over it, jfc..
Edit: No, I'm not trying to bash GC here.

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[Prysin]

If you want to avoid being sieged, perhaps gather a fund and hire security? make a "bounty" on siegers, pay extraordinairy sums per kill. Im pretty sure some PvPer will find a excuse to collect your money. Even if it means shooting their own friends.


PvPers tend not to be traders, so they always look for easy money.

Just food for thought.

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